72 points

God of War matters.

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I only ever really played through the very first 2 games, and it’s been years, but I don’t remember Ares even being a huge part. Which is weird considering it was Greek myth and had the name “God of War.” The Greek god of war should have been a big thing (or at least memorable).

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The short of it is that Ares dies at the end of the first game.

The game was originally supposed to be a one-off and was never intended to have a sequel, so Kratos kills Ares and becomes the new God of War at the end of the first game. The ending scene even has Kratos on Ares’ throne and talks about how he, as the new god of war, is responsible for all sorts of heinous acts throughout history while footage of modern wars like Vietnam flash by.

But the game did so well that the studio execs demanded that they make a sequel, and then another, and another, and another, etc. They had to keep coming up with new gods to kill and ways to up the stakes by casting Kratos off of his throne, so by the third game, Kratos just murders the entire Greek Pantheon and causes the apocalypse. And then they had to figure out where to go from there. The “reboot” was probably one of the smartest things they could’ve done for the series. Don’t have to keep upping the stakes with gods to kill if Kratos just goes to therapy and deals with his issues.

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10 points

Goes to therapy, deals with grief in a healthy way for the first time ever, causes another apocalypse anyways

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1 point

But on the one hand, Greek gods are dicks anyway.

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7 points

The newest 2 games are amazing.

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We need a Kratos religious movement. Those who believe in Kratos to slaughter the gods brining subjugation of the people upon us. It is against our beliefs to not be against people who follow God’s that subjugate the populace. Sometimes it may be ourselves, but that’s fine too.

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It’s also been quite some time for me, but I have the impression that there was a plot reason for it, like the games being a war on the gods, which started with taking the place of Ares? Thus the title (but in a roundabout way)

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37 points

I always thought it was weird when people think of Jesus as a literal God.

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35 points

The trinity. The father the son and the holy ghost. AKA Dissociative identity disorder

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It’s not DID, that’s modalism.

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2 points

that’s modalism

Patrick and his bad analogies.

https://youtu.be/KQLfgaUoQCw?si=CUsGna435cYa2Qam

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That’s canon tho.

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True, it’s just a little too magical for my brain to process. To me he was a prophet and probably a good dude… but that’s probably about it.

To worship a guy as a literal God because his mom had a tale to tell about why she was pregnant, was the beginning of the end of religion making sense for me.

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To me he was a prophet and probably a good dude… but that’s probably about it.

And you have stumbled upon the big difference between Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

Jews already had a list of criteria for the messiah. Jesus didn’t check all of the boxes, so the Jews went “he’s not our messiah. We’ll keep waiting for the real one to show up.”

Christians believe he is the messiah; Literally God given flesh, so He can experience mortality and die for their sins.

Then the Muslims believe he was a prophet, but not the last prophet. They believe the last prophet was Muhammad. Jesus is featured pretty heavily in the Quran, because they do believe he was a prophet. But Muhammad said there would be no more prophets after himself, so anyone new claiming to be one is lying. (Worth noting that this “no new prophets” thing doesn’t negate Jesus’ second coming. Because Jesus wouldn’t be a new prophet, he would be a returning prophet.)

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if he existed, he sounds like he was cool.

show me some real historical documents suggesting he did, tho.

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That’s not the only reason. Jesus claimed to be God, His followers worshipped Him, He performed miracles and ultimately died and rose again and was seen by many. Then ascended into heaven like a month later.

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Literally is, at least according to trinitarian doctrine. Handy diagram:

Which of course implies that “isness” is non-transitive which mathematically speaking is bonkers. I mean it’s not that you can’t have intransitive relations but calling them equivalences is going to raise eyebrows.

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“Isness” definitely doesn’t need to be transitive.

It can be used to give properties to a subject. An apple is crisp, red, and 100g. Crisp isn’t red, red isn’t 100g, and 100g isn’t crisp.

It can also be used to specify a general case. Honeycrisp is an apple. Golden Delicious is an apple. Fuji is an apple. All three of Honeycrisp, Fuji and Golden Delicious are distinct.

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An apple is crisp, red, and 100g. Crisp isn’t red, red isn’t 100g, and 100g isn’t crisp.

True, but then crisp isn’t apple, red isn’t apple, and 100g isn’t apple: All your examples have the property that if x is y, then y isn’t x, which means it’s an asymmetric relation, while in the trinity there’s symmetry: The father is god, god is the father.

Honeycrisp is an apple. Golden Delicious is an apple. Fuji is an apple

We can go further and say that apples are fruit, and that Honeycrisp are fruit. That is transitive.

What you’re describing is a strict partial order, which is not an equivalence, but the whole thing being some sort of equivalence is kinda important if Trinitarians want to be monotheists. Equivalences need to be reflexive, symmetric and transitive, at least if you ask mathematicians.

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5 points

eh, Hercules and Bacchus are; similar situations. I say he gets a pass.

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4 points

It is just one uppmanship. He didn’t start out being thought that way but people kept adding. Whole process took over two centuries

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2 points

Yeah? Well! My gods son can beat up your gods son!

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Some Gnostics went pretty quickly down the road of “he’s the real god, here to expose the demiurge (Yahweh, formerly known as Ba’al, according to them… But not according to Canaanite religion)”

Supposedly. I think a lot of scholars are in the process of reexamining what the Gnostics actually believed.

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2 points

You’re not alone. Every Muslim thinks of Jesus as a prophet.

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13 points

So what you’re saying is that you hate Jesus?

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14 points

Have you been to one of his churches? Tried one of those wafers they say is him? He tastes awful.

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12 points

Never met him. Read his stories, can’t say I care for any of the servitude required, and his followers are the worst humans you’ll run into around here.

No, thank you.

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4 points

I hate him in the sense I hate any fictional character.

Don’t think he was really fleshed out, didn’t see the point in the larger narrative, and he has the worst fanbase. Even Rick and Morty has a better behaved fandom.

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I can’t say I like him much:

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

John 3:18

In other words, if you aren’t a Christian (which most people in history and alive today are not), you go straight to hell.

The “Prince of Peace” was all about kindness because your sinful ass would get tortured forever, so you might as well have a few nice years here.

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I think you meant to post this in theologymemes

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Theology sucks, all my homies in religion studies.

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There is no Jesus, only Zuul

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