Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?

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Radicale has been so good I’d forgotton it existed, carddav and caldav sorted. Unix principle at its best, do one thing well (or microservices for the newbies). Why are you dogwhistling for a closed source marginal replacement for syncthing ?

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Oh I also agree about Syncthing. With it you practically don’t even need to run it on you server, I still do, just in case if all my other divices are offline.

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Cloudron is kind of a freemium product. They offer a few apps (two ?) for free to use. For more apps you need to pay. Their back-end does have a view-source-but-no-edit “open source” license last time I checked. Bu if you want to keep things easy, go for it.

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I switched to Radicale and couldn’t be happier, so lightweight no pain setting it up or updating. Supports CardDav for the addressbook and CalDav for calendar, tasks, notes.

Nextcloud is for Enterprises, not for selfhosting anymore.

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Completely agree about Nextcloud. The project rose to fame on selfhosters beta testing it, then buddied up to enterprise users and ditched the initial user base.

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What do you do for file syncing, if you don’t mind me asking

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Syncthing and I have it partitioned with:

  • Music
  • Documents
  • Family Documents
  • Password DB

So that I can decide what to sync to which device.Music is for example too big to sync to my Phone so I don’t. Family documents I also share with my partner. Password DB I sync with all my devices but not to anyone else.

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I use syncthing between my desktop and laptop for syncing all my documents, development environments and so on. Works well.

But how well does it work for sharing with someone else? E.g. it would be great to find a solution where myself and my partner could share notes and shopping lists which we can both edit. We use Google keep currently but I’m currently testing out solutions to de-google our lives. Nextcloud seemed like a good idea as it has docs and things but I’ve not found it very good to be honest. Especially syncing on a mobile. I’ve been using obsidian recently for my notes and it works well between laptop and desktop with the nextcloud app but I have to keep going into nextcloud on android to force it to sync or pick up new files. I’m just about to see how syncthing works for that but back to my original question…can you reliably have two people editing things with syncthing?

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Seafile has been great for me.

400gb, multiple users. Single sign in with Authentik.

Just recently setup only office integration

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I think that’s kind of what they meant. I’ve also selfhosted Nextcloud for years, but I only use file sync and calendar/contacts.

Lately I’ve been feeling that Nextcloud is too big and clunky for just that. Like it’s something I’d love to setup at work or for an org, but that it “feels” to heavy for home use these days.

I need to check out Radicale, I think.

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Same with me. Nextcloud is the typical it does everything but doesn’t excel in anything

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Yeah, I also selfhosted it for years myself. But I was adding more and more services to my server and it became clear that if I would want to keep Nextcloud I’d need a server with more CPU and RAM because when Nextcloud was running it would after half a day deadlock the server with a load of 120 so I had to hard reboot it twice a day.

After replacing it with radicale and syncthing I was able to run Mastodon and Lemmy on the same server additionally.

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120? That doesn’t seem normal, what services were you using within NC? Mine sits still with a load of 0. something.

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I tried to use Radicale, but it was too much effort, so i started using Baikal instead.

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Haha, interesting, for me it was the exact opposite, I started with Baikal but it was too weird and I couldn’t get it up and running quickly enough and then I think I was not able to share my calendar with my partner or something, so I switched to Radicale.

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If you want to scale way down, Sabre develops the very lightweight Baïkal. I’ve been using it for a couple of years, and it’s worked without a hitch. Just sits there and does its thing.

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I currently rent a VM running nextcloud for family use. It currently shows its age with all the nescessary tinkering to keep it current. (also have to use the hosters db which is … difficult)

I’m thinking along the same lines…

a smallffpc at home, dyn to my home ip, wireguard as a vpn into my home, The server runs: radicale caldav carddav, ksmbd family photos.

my main problem: this needs to work on ios and android and linux and windows, reliably, which it currently does not in my test setup.

currently lacking a solution for recipe sharing and shopping list sharing. Maybe setting up nextcloud on my own server is less of a hassle_…

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I have Linux with GNOME and Android and my partner has iOS and Windows and all the CalDav and CardDav stuff works fine. Or at least adressbook and calendar. I couldn’t find a client for iOS for CalDav notes and tasks.

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CalDAV note support is very rare on Android too. I think jtxBoard is the only app that does it and it needs DAVx5 to work.

It’s a terrible pity, it would be great to be able to sync notes to CalDAV if you’re using it for events and tasks and contacts but alas nobody seems interested.

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Yeah it’s a pitty. For Linux I started writing https://github.com/jeena/jnotes but it will still take a lot of time before it’s usable.

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Same. The basic stuff works and i managed to replace recipes with nextcloud cookbook but its quite heavy caldav notes and tasks support on ios would be wonderful but i couldnt find something that integrates into our workflow and systems.

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Home Assistant can do shared lists and (I’ve not used them) but has some recipe add-ons. There are apps for android and iOS. It can also take care of managing the dynamic IP. Then if you want to explore home automation in future you’re ready to go.

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Home Assistant was not on my radar. Thank you!

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