Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?
I switched to Radicale and couldn’t be happier, so lightweight no pain setting it up or updating. Supports CardDav for the addressbook and CalDav for calendar, tasks, notes.
Nextcloud is for Enterprises, not for selfhosting anymore.
I think that’s kind of what they meant. I’ve also selfhosted Nextcloud for years, but I only use file sync and calendar/contacts.
Lately I’ve been feeling that Nextcloud is too big and clunky for just that. Like it’s something I’d love to setup at work or for an org, but that it “feels” to heavy for home use these days.
I need to check out Radicale, I think.
Yeah, I also selfhosted it for years myself. But I was adding more and more services to my server and it became clear that if I would want to keep Nextcloud I’d need a server with more CPU and RAM because when Nextcloud was running it would after half a day deadlock the server with a load of 120 so I had to hard reboot it twice a day.
After replacing it with radicale and syncthing I was able to run Mastodon and Lemmy on the same server additionally.
120? That doesn’t seem normal, what services were you using within NC? Mine sits still with a load of 0. something.
I tried to use Radicale, but it was too much effort, so i started using Baikal instead.
Syncthing and I have it partitioned with:
- Music
- Documents
- Family Documents
- Password DB
So that I can decide what to sync to which device.Music is for example too big to sync to my Phone so I don’t. Family documents I also share with my partner. Password DB I sync with all my devices but not to anyone else.
I use syncthing between my desktop and laptop for syncing all my documents, development environments and so on. Works well.
But how well does it work for sharing with someone else? E.g. it would be great to find a solution where myself and my partner could share notes and shopping lists which we can both edit. We use Google keep currently but I’m currently testing out solutions to de-google our lives. Nextcloud seemed like a good idea as it has docs and things but I’ve not found it very good to be honest. Especially syncing on a mobile. I’ve been using obsidian recently for my notes and it works well between laptop and desktop with the nextcloud app but I have to keep going into nextcloud on android to force it to sync or pick up new files. I’m just about to see how syncthing works for that but back to my original question…can you reliably have two people editing things with syncthing?
Radicale has been so good I’d forgotton it existed, carddav and caldav sorted. Unix principle at its best, do one thing well (or microservices for the newbies). Why are you dogwhistling for a closed source marginal replacement for syncthing ?
I’ve been hoping to find a non-PHP alternative to Nextcloud for a while, but unfortunately I’ve yet to find one which supports my base requirements for the file storage.
Due to some quirks with my setup, my backing storage consists of a mix of local folders, S3 buckets, SMB/SFTP mounts (with user credential login), and even an external WebDav server.
Nextcloud does manage such a thing phenomenally, while all the alternatives I’ve tested (including a Radicale backed by rclone mounts) tend to fall completely to pieces as soon as more than one storage backend ends up getting involved, especially when some of said backends need to be accessed with user-specific credentials.
Owncloud infinite scale is a rewrite of owncloud(=nextcloud) in go, it supports local, nfs and S3 mounts. Change the smb share to nfs and it might fit you
Disadvantages are:
- All the plugins need to be rewritten, so if you need some extra feature, it’s going to be missing
- They got acquired by a company that sells an expensive alternative for corporations (RIP? Who is paying millions to maintain a free alternative/competitor?)
- Documentation is inferior, community is much smaller
I’ve been looking at the rewrite of Owncloud, but unfortunately I really do need either SMB or SFTP for one of the most critical storage mounts in my setup.
I don’t particularly feel like giving Owncloud a win either, they’ve not been behaving in a particularly friendly manner for the community, and their track record with open core isn’t particularly good, so I really don’t want to end up with a decent product that then steadily mutilates itself to try and squeeze money out of me.
The Owncloud team actually had a stand at FOSDEM a couple of years back, right across from the Nextcloud team, and they really didn’t give me much confidence in the project after chatting with them. I’ve since heard that they’re apparently not going to be allowed to return again either, due to how poorly they handled it.
