Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems and one of the first whistleblowers to allege Spirit leadership had ignored manufacturing defects on the 737 MAX, died Tuesday morning after a struggle with a sudden, fast-spreading infection.

Known as Josh, Dean lived in Wichita, Kan., where Spirit is based. He was 45, had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle.

He died after two weeks in critical condition, his aunt Carol Parsons said.

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All these accidental coincidence deaths starting to remind me of a certain Eurasia country

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…but with no windows involved.

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At least these people dont shoot themselves twice in the back of the head and then fall out a window.

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And then shoot themselves twice in the back of the head again, bc sometimes a statement just needs to be made.

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So uhh this is awkward. But this is their second whistleblower to die? At what point do we uhhh investigate this?

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You first.

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Unfortunately there has been a post + username tragedy. They already got to that maggoty user.

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I laughed, I don’t know why you got downvoted.

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Wait… is this an older death… or is it another Boeing whistleblower?

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Second. John Barnett was the first in early March.

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Okay. Just making sure.

It’s not suspicious at all that two whistleblowers wind up dead, or nuthin.

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*two in the same case

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Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, MRSA.

Hmm, there’s nothing more specific on the “having trouble breathing”… possibly suspicious, but also possibly an allergic reaction… for all we know he was stung by a bee or something.

MRSA is unfortunately not suspicious at all, it is far too commonly acquired in hospitals.

MRSA is also a leading cause of hospital-acquired and ventilator-associated pneumonia. Hospital-acquired pneumonia (HAP), or nosocomial pneumonia, is characterized as pneumonia developing 48 hours or more after hospital admission, indicating that it was not incubating at the time of admission. Ventilator-associated pneumonia (VAP) is defined as pneumonia developing 48 hours or more after implementation of endotracheal intubation and mechanical ventilation and was not present before intubation. The microbiological etiology of these two conditions is similar and carries grave prognosis associated with poor overall outcomes.

National Library of Medicine: MRSA

In the larger context of the Boeing incidents, this death seems suspicious. But the circumstances of this death aren’t very suspicious otherwise, this could easily have been a minor issue that became fatal due to a hospital-acquired staph infection. It’s probably a bad idea to jump to conclusions.

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90% odds on first whistleblower death being murder

10% odds on this death being murder

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10% odds on this death being murder

The odds of a a 45 year old man dying in the US within a one year period of time is 0.134% based on the 2017 US Social Security actuarial tables. Given that he died within the 75 days of the other murdered whistleblower the odds are of that being natural are

P(75 days) = 1 - (1 - 0.00134) ^ (75/365.25)

Which equals 0.0275% or 1 in 3630.

I have shown you my homework, please show me yours.

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Actuarial Winrar

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Hmm, there’s nothing more specific on the “having trouble breathing”

Because it was almost certainly COVID but they didn’t test for it, or didn’t release it as a cause of death.

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Yeah, I wasn’t going to bring up COVID because I can only handle so many conspiracy nuts at a time, but this does seem like a possibility. There doesn’t seem to be recent data.

The pneumonia and infection could have made COVID testing impossible or just low priority compared to the life-threatening issues, so we probably won’t get a definite answer on that.

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Unfortunately getting pneumonia and it going septic is not an uncommon occurrence. Once you are septic if you don’t get the right antibiotics in you quickly you’ll go into septic shock which has a 40% mortality rate.

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The only conspiracy theory I can bring to the table is that MRSA is probably easy to weaponize. A nurse or visitor could have easily deployed a dirty tactic such as just visiting a patient with MRSA at another hospital and then coming to this hospital to visit the victim. Just touching infected areas of one patient and then touching vulnerable areas on the victim is enough.

This is why you don’t want to end up in a hospice where there’s a history of MRSA. You will eventually get it.

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Do you know any major hospitals that don’t have some history of MRSA?

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Data not found.

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Someone with a lot of money probably did something extremely heinous… that, or a PR team just landed the absolute worst coincidence.

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I haven’t heard anyone irl talking about Boeing recently, and barely even saw anything online a week after the initial death. While it pisses me off to no end, this incident will blow over just as easily for Boeing.

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I doubt that as people are scared to fly in Boeing planes.

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If you’re in the US, you have very few non-Boeing options. Especially if you’re trying to pick affordable flights.

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