191 points

Never understood why Windows’ explorer hides extension by default. Does MS fear it would confuse their users?

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Yes, they think their users will be confused by and accidentally remove extensions. To be fair that might happen sometimes but it’s nowhere near worth it

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61 points

They already have a confirmation box when you try to change the extension. And could just as easily move it into another column where it’s harder to change (explorer was like this once, a long time ago).

And yet, they keep hiding the on the rationale that it confuses the users. The most common thing on explorer is some user being confused because they can’t understand what clicking on a file is supposed to do, but that’s not an argument for showing them…

So, yeah, that’s the surface-level explanation. But there’s a deeper reason.

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31 points

You seriously underestimate the stupidity of 80% of windows users. They could put multiple warnings and people would still click past them without reading then bitch to their IT team when they break something.

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They already have a confirmation box when you try to change the extension

I think you overestimate the average users willingness to read anything. Only thing they know is how to bitch about things not working even when they were told exactly why it’s not working/what they did (wrong)

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Ah, right, in the context that Windows determines filetype only on extension.

Btw, there’s a bunch of mimeopen implementations for Linux. Is there something like that for Windows too?

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18 points

I don’t think that anything like that exists in Windows. Generally that’s my least issue with windows honestly. It’s a POS on so many levels

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12 points

Iirc there’s a massive warning popping up saying it might fuck the file

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16 points

Yep.

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10 points

I don’t think it even fucks the file, windows just can’t open it until you put the file extension back.

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Right. I’m saying even having that feature (in addition to the default setting of hiding the extension by default), is a bit too much

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I somewhat agree. Although I wouldn’t say getting easier was the wrong move overall. Without guis I never would gotten into programming. If I’d never gotten into programming I would have never wanted to use command lines. So the right choices around making things easier, I think are great. But yeah if people are too uneducated to undo a file rename, that’s probably a sign of a bad type of coddling.

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worry about users not being able to open files after renaming them since you can also edit those extensions via text, and people aren’t taught about file association.

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yes there is a warning but still no guide, not in the popup, nor in the association setup to tell what things mean

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185 points

What do you mean? linkin_park_-_numb.mp3 clearly has an extension, it’s all the other files that don’t!

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96 points

One time I struggled debugging a program on a clean Windows machine. For some reason it seemed like it couldn’t find a JSON file that’s obviously in the system. I could even open the file on my own and view its contents.

Turns out after much frustration that the file was actually a json.txt file. I didn’t notice because the extension was hidden, so I only saw .json and thought it was fine.

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46 points

Step 5 in meme: add ‘.txt’ to seemingly text files.

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2 points

sounds like vscode.

helix or micro on windows to get away from that garbage.

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2 points

Notepad is the one that does things like that, because they want you to only use it for *.txt files. VSCode does not have issues like that.

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2 points

In this case I used notepad because it was a fresh Windows install on some VM.

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77 points

The OS designed to prime the population into bad cyber security practices so they are more easily able to exploit and scam later on.

takes off tinfoil hat

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21 points

You have a point though. Why hide file types by default unless you believe the users are too dumb to ever learn what a few letters mean.

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29 points

Hate to break it to you, but most users are that dumb.

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7 points

If they’re that dumb leave the extensions on and let their eyes glaze over it like they would anyway. Hiding the extensions doesn’t seem beneficial in any way.

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I’ve seen people deleting those ugly *.exes and *.mp3s from their files. Hopefully they learned to not to, but I’ve heard cases who didn’t.

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3 points

Governments and banks love to do it too.

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69 points

You can’t imagine how much I hate this setting. A couple of weeks ago I helped a guy install some specific software on a windows machine provided by the customer. It’s like one exe with a config file. Pretty basic. My instructions were:

  1. Copy the exe to a specific path
  2. Create a new text file in the same path and copy paste this provided text into the file
  3. Rename file to abc.xml

The exe was throwing errors because of the missing config file. Of course the filename was abc.xml.txt 💩

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This is part of what helped the I love you virus to spread. Not too many idiots would open a file titled ILoveYou.txt.vbs, but even some smarter people will turn their brains off if they get a file titled ILoveYou.txt, possibly even me, except the first thing I do with a new computer is unhide file extensions.

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11 points

This gave me PTSD

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That setting is one of the first things I change on any Windows I get my hands on.

It is all around dumb.

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4 points

Gotta remember to always use “”. Such a pain

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