Sounds like a miserable place to be gay.
Hamas would love nothing more than to stabilize the country of Palestine, and then resume systematically throwing gay and trans people off roofs of buildings. “Queers for Palestine” protestors are all hopeful morons.
Did anyone here read the article? Two paragraphs are about Queers for Palestine. The rest is about actual Palestinians trying to fight for LGBT rights. So many people here trying to dunk on how dumb it is to fight for this when it’s the people actually over there fighting for their rights. Are you saying that shouldn’t happen?
Who do you think was elected to run the governance of Gaza and Palestine before Israel plowed through?
Anyone under 36 wasn’t even eligible to vote the last time Palestine had parliamentary elections. Holding people responsible for elections that happened before they could vote or before they were even born is absolutely deranged.
There are some folks who can’t comprehend the mentality of:
“They hate us so they don’t deserve to die”
Wow, get out of your tribalistic hole
Not sure about trans acceptance in particular but judged by Arab standards Palestinians are generally right-out progressive. More in the “don’t ask, don’t tell” stage with the occasional threat by fundies.
…and that all of course is West Bank. Gaza under Hamas rule is a completely different topic as Hamas are fundies.
Omw to adopt this line of thinking uncritically to argue that 9/11 was entirely justified and should happen again once a week throughout every republican state in the US because some of the victims would probably happen to be transphobic.
America’s transphobic as fuck though, why should I give a shit that 3,000 transphobic Americans died on September 11th? tbh, I’m glad that there’s 3,000 less transphobes in the world actually
Lots of people all around the world are transphobic as fuck. That doesn’t mean I want them and their children to get bombed or starved to death.
Israel is probably the nr. 1 murderer of trans people in the world right now. Get your priorities straight.
Not even close. Israel sucks for what they’re doing but no need to make up lies.
How is it a lie? Gaza is probably the most dangerous place in the world. If you kill 40 000 people a couple of thousand of those are going to be lgbtq. God you people are dumb.
Edit: Also I like the inherit racism in thinking Palestinians can’t be lgbtq and also claiming, without fact that they’re transphobic. Hamas is transphobic. Palestinians are an entire group of people.
The middle east in general, and subsaharan Africa, are by far the most homophobic regions on Earth: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/
My dear boy, the answer is of fucking course it is, because everywhere in the world is
there is no gaytopia. best you’re gonna find is the gay village! But I mean, they do alright there.
And? So is where I grew up in the southern US. There are states I can’t legally visit anymore if I want to piss in a public restroom. That doesn’t mean I’m okay with bombing most of the hospitals, schools, and homes there and killing tens of thousands of civilians. Anyone OK with that because they’re bigoted in some way has a fucking moral deficiency.
Most of the southern US won’t stone you or murder you in broad daylight though. What’s happening in Palestine and Israel is fucked up, but it doesn’t give a pass to the shit they do to the LGTBQ+ and women over there.
I think everyone even Arabs agree that the majority of people is homophobic/transphobic. Fine.
But please state a source for people in Palestine being stoned, like at all, no matter the reason. What kind of place do you think Palestine is?
Most of the southern US won’t stone you or murder you in broad daylight though.
Since October 1st 2023, 20 trans people in the US are known to have died from violence. Almost half of them died in the south (as defined by the US census). Are trans people in the south any safer for it happening under cover of night? Pretending for a moment none of them were killed in broad daylight (some were).
Again, nobody is saying it excuses bigotry. Only a fucking idiot thinks bombing hospitals, schools, and civilians is going to somehow improve the lives of LGBT Palestinians (who everyone somehow neglects to give a shit about in these conversations except as a cudgel against western LGBT people).
This doesn’t make any sense - if anything it’s backwards. being oppressed doesn’t give anyone a free pass to oppress others. That kind of twisted logic is what Israel uses to get away with murder.
Fun fact, you can’t find anywhere in my comment that says “being oppressed makes oppressing others okay” because that’s not what it says. It says that parents potentially being bigoted isn’t an excuse to blow up their fucking children.
I’ve yet to have anyone give me a satisfactory explanation for why Palestinian kids deserve to have their limbs blown off or killed for living in an area hostile to LGBT people, but the people I grew up with who are equally hostile to LGBT people don’t deserve to have their kids’ limbs blown off or killed. If the answer is “American children are simply worth more than Palestinian children” then they should just come out and say it, but all I ever get is bleating about the same shit I already addressed.
So are you saying that Orthodox Jews and conservative Christians aren’t transphobic, or that we should go Gaza on Texas?
I think OP was wondering why LGBTQ folks would support a group that hates them.
Do Americans hate us? The only people I’ve been verbally and physically assaulted by have been Americans.
