Jesus. We’ll never hear the end of it from the right wing wackos. They’ll use this as justification for starting up the Nazi Youth
O no, they changed the name of an organization I was never a part of and know nothing about.
I will now complain to every white stranger I come across.
PoV of white bald guy, they always think I’m on their team unless I’m dressed “flowery”. Then they just assume I’m gay and don’t talk to me. If I’m wearing camo tho? Best friend.
Gay members? ✅
Gay leaders? ✅
Girls? ✅
Atheists? Um… er… well…
https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/10/03/belief-in-god-scouting/
As an atheist scout, I got around that by just lying to them. LOL. I guess I wasn’t a good scout.
Your article is from 2014. 10 years ago all of your other checks were NO as well. I can’t find anything recently about atheists with a quick search, just old stuff like that.
It’s still a core part of their membership:
Scout Oath “On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.”
More:
https://dutytogodbsa.org/portfolio/what-does-duty-to-god-mean/
it is, BUT, if you read between the lines of the requirements, there’s plenty of room for pragmatic atheists (in pragmatic packs/troops). It’s not perfect, but overall Scouting has absolutely embraced inclusiveness.
If they haven’t made a public statement that they’ve stopped excluding atheists, why should anyone assume they’ve changed their policies?
Start a 4-H Club. They’re run by state universities, so they’re subject to all their policies involving inclusivity and each club is centered on a specific topic. Want a camping/outdoor life club? Easy. Doesn’t have to be Ag related.
I got my God and Country before I became an atheist. I think my dad still has it lol
Not very inclusive when atheist kids and gay troop leaders still told to GTFO.
The article addresses this - they’re admitting gay troop leaders and scouts, as well as girls. The article doesn’t mention anything on the atheist front, but as a member of team rainbow who went through scouting in the 70s and 80s, these are massive changes and I’d honestly be surprised if the org went to court over atheism.
IIRC they’ve previously fought in court for the right to exclude atheists.
No recent court cases because private organizations are allowed to discriminate.
They did the same for LGBT until recently.
Being a private organization does not grant you an unlimited right to discriminate, no matter how much the right likes to pretend it does. That’s why anti-discrimination laws exist. There’s loopholes orgs have tried to use, and protections vary by state, but just being a “private organization” doesn’t mean “do whatever prejudicial thing you want.”
Like I said, I don’t see this current iteration of the org fighting atheists in court.
All a kid has to do is say ’ I believe in a higher power’s and that’s that. Doesn’t even have to lie if he means ‘newtons third laws’ as the power
We should not be encouraging kids to lie in order to join an organization dedicated to building moral character.
The lesson is that moral character comes from within and not from authority figures.
Of course, we should never encourage kids to lie.
Now when it comes to leveraging the power of creative reasoning, flexibility of interpretation, and nuance of language - that’s an advanced rhetoric merit badge right there.
Semantic gymnastics, like moral character, comes from within ✨
My higher power is the fucking sun: Sol. He’s the highest power any of y’all gonna see.
Which is also why I never made it past Star Scout: why advance past the best?
Maybe if you take it as written but it will always be enforced unequally. In my rural ass troop there was a very heavy christian implication from scout leaders, and my parents. They didn’t end up forcing me to say it, but it was a very uncomfortable day of adults I was supposed to be able to trust repeatedly pressuring me to publicly announce my belief and helplessness in the face of a fairy tale. Not the only day I was religiously pressured either.
To be honest I never expected the BSA would attempt to reform itself as much as it has. I was in a very homophobic troop, a scoutmaster of mine vented to my grandma that all the queer people ought to be put up against the wall and shot. I’m glad things are improving but I don’t think I’ll ever see the organization in a positive light.
Their numbers are declining, which means revenue is declining. So the more inclusive they become, the more money they can make. It’s been an ongoing issue even before COVID hit (which hurt a lot of troops and packs).
Also surprisingly/unsurprisingly a ton of reform suddenly took place the moment the Mormons jumped ship and gave up leadership.
Anyone has the right to be a Pawnee Godess
