195 points

Well stop trying to make twitter then you fuckin idiot.

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He was on the board, it’s not like it was his project or anything. Imo he wanted to create a protocol, not a platform. “Improve Activitypub” like they always claimed. But then Bluesky realized that they can simply build their own platform and be Twitter 2.0

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13 points

He should just contribute to mastodon instead.

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Its community based so his opinion could be ignored, unlike when he’s on a board and his opinion was ignored.

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@Microw @dumbass No. He wouldn’t be happy with ActivityPub as well. He imagines a social network where no one can perform any moderation. He favours Nostr for exactly that reason. Bluesky has got moderation (just like the Fediverse) - which he dislikes.

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Moderation should always be client side. Server side should not be able to interfere or even read public content

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No. He wouldn’t be happy with ActivityPub as well. He imagines a social network where no one can perform any moderation. He favours Nostr for exactly that reason. Bluesky has got moderation (just like the Fediverse) - which he dislikes.

So? Like Usenet was back in the day before it became a pirate haven. Then email lists became it. LOL, People tend to ignore the extreme nut jobs regardless. I never saw any child porn on Usenet, but then I didn’t go looking for it. No doubt it existed too.

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Several of you seem to be misunderstanding. When he says “like Twitter” it’s not in the negative ways you are thinking. It’s in the negative ways he’s thinking. Meaning censorship and being able to ban accounts. He doesn’t want that. Mastodon would have the same criticisms if he commented on it.

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Oh right, is that this new “free speech absolutism” I’ve heard about? 🙃

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Unless it is pro-Palestinian speech of course

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Or speech that hurts his feelings

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Wasn’t twitter really good about banning actual Nazis and not banning journalists until Musk came along? After Musk came, Nazis were unbanned and we saw a huge wave of journalists getting banned.

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Before Musk, Twitters advertising was driven by engagement, and engagement was driven by encountering things that made you angry. So they were slow to respond to anything but the most egregious cases of hatred and bigotry.

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It was always pretty bad, musk just made it worse

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No… NO. It was appallingly terrible at banning Nazis, worse than even Reddit in many ways. Twitter banned a tiny, tiny fraction of extremely prominent and openly fascist accounts that had been permitted to operate for years, but they ignored Nazi dogwhistles from large accounts and smaller accounts that didn’t gain a following and were used to harass 1-2 people were generally allowed to operate freely.

Remember: they didn’t even ban Donald Trump himself until he tried to literally violently overthrow the US government. Twitter pre-Musk was an absolute shit hole, but it was at least headed in a hopeful direction. Musk kept it a shit hole and just changed the direction it was going.

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They built it to be another Twitter.

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That’s what I was thinking. Wasn’t that the point?

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bluesky has a robust moderation system which blocks transphobes, bigots, and racism which is why jack hates it.

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It doesn’t block them though does it? My understanding is that it simply filters them so that you don’t see them anymore. They’re still there doing their thing though.

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You’re correct. It doesn’t stop Nazis from having a home or building a following. It just allows users to not see it.

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It does block them more so than on fedi. When I block someone they can’t see my content nor account, they can’t log out and go see my content. It’s not just filtered, also they have banned accounts and removed content

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Uh… source? This runs counter to everything I’ve seen and read about it.

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So it’s like Reddit

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Jack Dorsey quits Bluesky board and urges users to stay on Elon Musk’s X

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