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THANK U FOR PROTECTING ME FROM EVER AFFORDING AN ELECTRIC CAR MR PRESIDENT. I’LL CROSS THAT OFF MY LIST, JUST LIKE “HEALTHCARE” AND “LITERALLY ANY HOME.”

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US is being seriously outcompeted at its own game by China, and this is it slowly imploding in response. Genuinely think we’re on the steep slope of decline of US economic hegemony.

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This is after passing huge subsidies with the IRA and CHIPS act. Very interesting!

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How the hell did anyone see that law and not think that the rich would just pocket the “subsidy”.

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I seriously don’t get it either. Comparing how the US does subsidies to private companies to how China does investment in state owned (whole or in part) enterprises really lays bare how our whole system is just intended to print money for rich people.

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They will work about as well as the heavily-funded “defensive lines” in northern ukraine

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For those who don’t want to click the link:

  • The tariff rate on certain steel and aluminum products under Section 301 will increase from 0–7.5% to 25% in 2024.
  • The tariff rate on semiconductors will increase from 25% to 50% by 2025.
  • The tariff rate on electric vehicles under Section 301 will increase from 25% to 100% in 2024.
  • The tariff rate on lithium-ion EV batteries will increase from 7.5%% to 25% in 2024, while the tariff rate on lithium-ion non-EV batteries will increase from 7.5% to 25% in 2026. The tariff rate on battery parts will increase from 7.5% to 25% in 2024.
  • The tariff rate on natural graphite and permanent magnets will increase from zero to 25% in 2026. The tariff rate for certain other critical minerals will increase from zero to 25% in 2024.
  • The tariff rate on solar cells (whether or not assembled into modules) will increase from 25% to 50% in 2024.
  • The tariff rate on ship-to-shore cranes will increase from 0% to 25% in 2024.
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yeah

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Didn’t car companies just announce they were canceling battery orders due to price?

Why are we fucking doing tariffs (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

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Damn this is actually worse than I thought.

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Damn, really trying to catch up to W for the title of “dumbest modern President”

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But we NEED ship to shore cranes we don’t have enough [US Flagged] for the construction that’s already underway, most of which was paid for by

Oh. The Joseph Robinette Biden Built Back Better Bill. Huh.

So this will affect like everything that costs money. Cool.

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So this will affect like everything that costs money. Cool.

Steel and aluminium going to 25% gonna have excellent effects on any infrastructure construction and maintenance and industrial manufacturing still left in the USA.

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This sounds like excellent idea, carry on.

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In the last year or two we’ve finally hit a point in the United States where the price, availability, and reliability of solar assemblies makes solar farms cheaper and more reliable than fossil fuel plants, and where individuals could get solar panels installed in the roof of their home or business for the cost of a used car.

This tariff throws that progress away. So much for the Biden regime’s stance that market mechanisms will solve climate change.

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It’s an absolute terrible move. Subsidies for domestic production are good, but slowing green energy growth is inconceivable.

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Why??! Who the hell is this even for?

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Domestic producers that don’t exist. They think that by doing shit like this manufacturing facilities will spring up out of nowhere. They don’t stop to reflect on the fact that the reason china has the capacity it has is because the government built it. But we will never do that here, that would be communism.

Let’s set aside the fact that no competent management team would justify a multi billion dollar business case on the back of a tariff that can just as easily be lifted overnight, depending on how polls in Michigan are doing

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Seriously, I’m trying to understand why the hell they would do this. It’s like shooting yourself in the foot to spite the shoemaker.

The international supremacy of the US economy relies on dollar hegemony and US imperialist foreign policy. The whole point is to be able to import cheap goods from other countries. If China’s rise is a threat to that then why accelerate the process?

The only rationale I can think of is the Biden admin legitimately thinks the Chinese economy cannot grow without access to the American market and that tariffs have the power to curtail such access. That seems so incredibly naive though for a whole number of reasons. It’s hard to imagine people with that much power are just that obtuse.

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Becoming increasingly apparent with their doubling down in eastern europe and the levant

If they were really thinking strategically they would’ve restrained israel or sought a negotiated end to the ukraine wara long time ago

On the one hand, this is obviously a huge benefit to china and russia. On the other, irrationality is unpredictable danger

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The handful of republicans in the US that might change their minds and vote for Joe.

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Literally zero republicans like that exist

I know dems claim to think they do

They don’t

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Socialdemocracy in Poland suicided on similar tactic. They took their voters for granted and kept moving right in order to gain liberal votes. Of course they didn’t, and lost their voters in the process, to the point of nearly getting kicked out of parliament itself. The only lesson they learned on this is to become 100% liberal and to openly form a bloc with them.

Succdems gonna succ, the more i look at them (not only in Poland), the more i come to conclusion those people are way too stupid to be even alive, so they aren’t stupid, and it’s all the perestroika frozen in time.

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For the EV and environmental tech companies based in the US. They’ll get to suckle like a leech off climate funds, at the most expensive rate possible.

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