That’s awesome I guess… if only the stock market was at all related to the actual economy.
Only if you’re at the magical age to cashout and shift a major portion into safer assets.
You can control the class of investments in a retirement account. Shift to a more aggressive mix in a thriving economy, more stable in a weaker one. Most work on bear/bull percentages, which makes it easier to manage for those with little to no experience.
War profit, layoff profit, benefit reduction profit, ballooning healthcare cost profit.
I don’t know how we will survive at this pace. Seriously, what’s next after this all implodes?
Same thing as 100 years ago. Stock market crash, poverty, unions rise, the powerful try to squash it and fail, unions and collective organizing take back a descent middle class life, the next generation(s) who grew up with all those advantages lets it all slip away because they are entitled, rinse repeat. The rich never learn but neither does the lower classes. There is no winning, it’s a constant vigilant battle to keep a standard of living that the working class must learn to maintain. The rich get rich by taking more than they need, that never stops.
One difference between now and 100 years ago is that propaganda is way more effective. It can be pushed in real time on social media, and can be targeted towards specific demographics. That’s one of the reasons the US government is trying to ban TikTok, as it doesn’t follow the US’ propaganda diet, exposing people to unapproved opinions.
31,188.38 the day Uncle Joe was sworn in, so +8,811.62 - 28.25% of what he started with.
By point of comparison:
Trump:
1/20/2017 - 19,827.25
5/15/2020 - 23,685.42
+3,858.17 - 19.46% of starting value.
Obama 1st Term:
1/20/2009 - 7,949.09
5/16/2012 - 12,598.55
+4,649.46 - 58.49% of starting value.
Obama 2nd Term:
1/22/2013 - 13,712.21
5/16/2016 - 17,710.71
+3,998.5 - 29.16% of starting value.
Source:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/^DJI/history/?period1=694362600&period2=1715877818
That’s interesting. On average the stock market rises ~8%/yr so only Obama’s 1st term outpaced. Biden just kept up. Trump … well, lol.
And Obama’s first term was a normalization of the market after it went in the absolute shitter under W:
W. Bush 1st term:
1/22/2001 - 10,578.24
5/17/2004 - 9,906.91
-671.33 - (-6.35%) of start.
W. Bush 2nd term:
1/20/2005 - 10,471.47
5/16/2008 - 12,986.80
+2,515.33 - 24.02% of start.
But that gain of 2.5K was as of MAY, by the time Bush was out it was 7,949.09. A drop of 2,522.38 from where he started the term, and 5,037.71 from that May number.
Before Obama could do anything, it bottomed out at 6,547.05 on March 9th, the stimulus package had just become effective less than a month before on 2/17/2009.
So this is kinda neat. Because, well, rule one is the economic policies of the current president lag in actual economic change, up or down. That is assuming that the president has any1 real sway on the economy in the first place. Consensus on how much, if at all, is up to discussion. We could write literal books on it.
So just to be fair, if we take these numbers and give them a 12 month lag, how does it compare? At 8, 16, or 24 months?
Im really not trying to be a troll or upset anyone’s preconceptions. These are genuine questions based on my honest understanding of economics and the effects of government policies. Im curious.
Wasn’t there a book about this in the 1990’s? Or maybe a Wired headline?
I assume it will make as much difference in my life as usual.
