28 points

Very sorry for the life of this lady.

Shitbulls should be banned.

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The lady across the street from us used to own a small dog, I think it passed and she recently got an XL bully. She struggles to walk it, always looks angry with the dog, it’s always barking and glaring at me and my family. I have been carrying my gun more recently because I’m waiting for the day that dog decides to try to make a meal out of my two-year-old.

Why are dognuts the way they are? Just get a fucking pom.

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Gun nuts are worse

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From the article

From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate. Anyone who owns one of the dogs must have had the animal neutered, have it microchipped and keep it muzzled and on a lead in public, among other restrictions.

So I’m guessing she got them before they were banned and had an exception so she didn’t have to have them destroyed.

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Or didn’t and simply flouted the law.

There’s a stereotype of people who own those breed(s) for a reason.

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23 points

The article did mention them as “registered”, so I don’t think this applies.

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12 points

Cripes, what kind of a dick do you have to be to your own dogs to get attacked by them?

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Sometimes the breed temperament has more to do with it than anything else….

But also assholes all seem to like the same breed so….

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Breed temperament is a thing, but all dogs can be good dogs. Most are good with only slight work. People get a breed they can’t handle and no one’s happy.

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It pains me to say this as a great dog lover, and someone that has known some very loving pitbulls, Sadly not all dogs can be good dogs.

Like people, some are just born as “assholes”

But yes, breed temperament is a thing. Not an absolute thing, but still a thing.

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My buddy legit owns a dire wolf (half wolf, half dog) and never had a problem in the last ten years. He owns a large chunk of property so the dog isn’t restricted to one room in an apartment in the city, and he knows how to handle a large animal. I will say one thing, that thing commands respect, it’s easily 7 foot from back paws to front paws.

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Even pitbulls are safe in the right hands. Fuck it, tigers and lions and silverback gorillas are safe in the right environment.

However a proper education in caring for the animals aswell as proper enclosures and a knowledge of the animal and its needs….

Yes you CAN do it, but should Tom from down the street have his own pitbull army and alligator pool in his back yard?

Hard pass.

I’m sure some people can do it safely, but training, registration, safety, etc…. Ban them all as pets unless you get X license, like a gun.

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There is no evidence that she was being terrible towards the dogs

Some dogs can just snap and decide to not be nice one day, its a good reason you don’t let dogs you’ve seen be calm interact with babies because it only takes a small amount of the dog not being nice to end up harming a baby

Older people have a better chance of surviving dog attacks but the chance isn’t 100% and cases like this can happen

And if I recall correctly this breed is more prone to aggressiveness

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I doubt it. Not walking them enough, keeping them cooped up, no outlets - especially if they weren’t fixed. Sad all around, but the dogs are not hatching evil plans, they’re just dogs.

Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter. And adopt.

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Dogs can still have the potential to snap regardless if you’ve given them a good life

They could just snap from having a tantrum

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Some dogs get older and I assume confused and just snap. My grandmother’s dog, sweetest girl, golden retriever, service dog, previously good with other animals and cats. My Grandmom brought home a kitten and the dog mauled it. Do not trust dogs. Just like people they can do something totally out of character.

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Dogs that snapped are not being evil, it’s just them acting on instinct. It’s doesn’t make them bad dogs, but it does make them dangerous.

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The kind of dick that keeps dogs like that in the first place.

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She was probably made of meat

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Didn’t even need to put the breed in the title, we already know.

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That’s very naive. There’s plenty of breeds of dogs that kill people.

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Yeah, that’s true, but in the UK XL Bullies specifically have been doing all the maulings recently that have generated serious press coverage; also they themselves have just been added as the sixth (?) banned canine breed in the UK.

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i get that some dogs just have a naturally high prey and aggression drive but a lot of times it has to do with learned behavior at home too :(

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This. She must have been giving them treats whenever they killed her.

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Probably not, but just giving them attention (positive or negative) whenever they killed her, causing them to associate it with being engaged with

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Some dogs can also just snap by throwing a tantrum even when their owners take good care of them

Some dogs will tear up a couch when they have a tantrum, maybe bully dogs tear up people when having a tantrum

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5 points

No, it’s the video games fault!

/s

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Here’s a proposal: First, all dog breeding is regulated as strictly as bars with liquor licenses. Criminal charges and jail time if found doing it illegally.

Breeders and owners are required to have insurance coverage specific to dogs.

Owners are held liable for all damages their dog causes, no matter what. Your dog attacks somebody, mauls them and they seek settlement? It’s on the owners. If the owner cannot be determined, the breeder is held liable.

Or, just make dogs above say, 30 pounds illegal. “But what if your dog is little and just really fat and becomes over 30 pounds?” Then you are fined and told to get your dog healthy within a certain timeframe, say 90 days, or surrender the dog and pay a fine for neglect, or get charged with animal abuse.

“Well then, nobody would want to get/breed dogs that are anywhere close to 30 pounds full grown because of the risk of violating the law.” Yes…that’s good. The only dogs people would have are small dogs that can’t severely maul/kill people even if they do go off the rails.

“But what about hunters or sportspeople that use dogs to hunt or herd?” Plenty of herding/hunting dogs are within that 30 pound weight range, like Corgis or Beagles. Obviously there would be exceptions for government organizations that use large dogs for legitimate purposes like Saint Bernards for search and rescue.

“But muh gawd damn riaghts!!!” go cry about it.

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He’s a proposal: you don’t need new Draconian laws every time something bad happens. That’s how politicians pass every bad law. Patriot act ring any bells?

Go contemplate.

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Should be distributed laws, not centralized, but you’re a statist, so this convo won’t go any further.

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this convo won’t go any further

You’re right about that, which is all that matters here.

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