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This is the best summary I could come up with:


The woman, who was in her 50s, was pronounced dead at the scene in Cornwall Close, Hornchurch, and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.

A spokesperson for the Met said: “Police were called to Cornwall Close around 1.12pm … to reports of a woman attacked by a dog.

“These were registered XL bully dogs and prior to officers’ arrival had been contained inside a room in the house.

From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate.

Footage of an XL bully dog attacking members of the public in the street in Birmingham, including a 11-year-old girl who sustained shoulder and arm injuries, prompted an outcry in September.

In November 2021, 10-year-old Jack Lis was mauled to death by a seven-stone XL bully dog called Beast.


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Good bot

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1 point

Anything to not mention kilo.

98 pounds/lbs is 44.4 kg.

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I’m definitely judging you for your use of single quotation marks. Not a lot, but… I am.

^^^Also metric superior^^^ goddamn superscript isn’t working ffs this was meant to be a non-noticeable addition

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1 point

“superior”

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12 points

Cripes, what kind of a dick do you have to be to your own dogs to get attacked by them?

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88 points

Sometimes the breed temperament has more to do with it than anything else….

But also assholes all seem to like the same breed so….

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15 points

Breed temperament is a thing, but all dogs can be good dogs. Most are good with only slight work. People get a breed they can’t handle and no one’s happy.

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32 points

It pains me to say this as a great dog lover, and someone that has known some very loving pitbulls, Sadly not all dogs can be good dogs.

Like people, some are just born as “assholes”

But yes, breed temperament is a thing. Not an absolute thing, but still a thing.

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1 point

My buddy legit owns a dire wolf (half wolf, half dog) and never had a problem in the last ten years. He owns a large chunk of property so the dog isn’t restricted to one room in an apartment in the city, and he knows how to handle a large animal. I will say one thing, that thing commands respect, it’s easily 7 foot from back paws to front paws.

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Even pitbulls are safe in the right hands. Fuck it, tigers and lions and silverback gorillas are safe in the right environment.

However a proper education in caring for the animals aswell as proper enclosures and a knowledge of the animal and its needs….

Yes you CAN do it, but should Tom from down the street have his own pitbull army and alligator pool in his back yard?

Hard pass.

I’m sure some people can do it safely, but training, registration, safety, etc…. Ban them all as pets unless you get X license, like a gun.

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39 points

There is no evidence that she was being terrible towards the dogs

Some dogs can just snap and decide to not be nice one day, its a good reason you don’t let dogs you’ve seen be calm interact with babies because it only takes a small amount of the dog not being nice to end up harming a baby

Older people have a better chance of surviving dog attacks but the chance isn’t 100% and cases like this can happen

And if I recall correctly this breed is more prone to aggressiveness

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4 points

I doubt it. Not walking them enough, keeping them cooped up, no outlets - especially if they weren’t fixed. Sad all around, but the dogs are not hatching evil plans, they’re just dogs.

Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter. And adopt.

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11 points

Dogs can still have the potential to snap regardless if you’ve given them a good life

They could just snap from having a tantrum

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Dogs that snapped are not being evil, it’s just them acting on instinct. It’s doesn’t make them bad dogs, but it does make them dangerous.

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Some dogs get older and I assume confused and just snap. My grandmother’s dog, sweetest girl, golden retriever, service dog, previously good with other animals and cats. My Grandmom brought home a kitten and the dog mauled it. Do not trust dogs. Just like people they can do something totally out of character.

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16 points

The kind of dick that keeps dogs like that in the first place.

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3 points

She was probably made of meat

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130 points

If my dogs ever tried to kill me, I’d just pin them both down. That’s the benefit of not having insanely powerful dogs.

IMO you shouldn’t have a dog that you can’t physically restrain. Any dog can snap and you need to be able to physically stop them if that happens.

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Any dog can snap

any animal can snap.

I guess you don’t think people should have st. bernards or great danes? I mean, I’m not suggesting people keep wolves or lions as pets, but this bully dog fearmongering is out of control. IMHO, it’s not the breed, it’s the training and owner.

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breed is literally bred to increase aggression over hundreds of generations

nooo they just look scary they’re so cuddly noooo you don’t understand

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breed is literally bred to increase aggression over hundreds of generations

absolute bullshit, unless they’re being bred by chuds for dogfights (despicable) this is not a thing

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46 points

IMHO, it’s not the breed, it’s the training and owner.

Your humble opinion notwithstanding, Bully dogs are demonstrably more dangerous than other breeds of dogs. It’s not some irrational fear, these dogs make up 66% of all fatal dog attacks. Pick any deceased dog attack victim, and it was a Bully or a Rottweiler that killed them.

Training is important and can make a difference in outcomes, but the data overwhelmingly points to aggression and lethality between different dog breeds being a matter of nature more than nurture, and that Bully dogs are on the far end of both spectrums leading to the worst outcomes.

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23 points

If your breed requires special training to not maul you or others to death, then that just proves the point of the breed being dangerous and that it should be outlawed. But please, continue to make some more bullshit excuses.

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If your breed requires special training to not maul you or others to death,

where is this indicated?

My brother/sister in dogs: 30,000ish years ago, some fucking wolf/dingo/mongrel-mutt threw their lot in with ours. We have, mutually, benefitted enormously. I love dogs and trust a lot more of them than I do humans to do the right thing. This isn’t developed anecdotally, it’s a lifetime of dogs as part of our family, and operating around working dogs in the military. They deserve our respect, and training is one part of any dog’s life that humans need to learn. Most training isn’t for the dog, it’s for the family members.

I’d recommend anyone with any dog go through training, whether a specific program or simply to acclimate the animal to your house (where and when we go outside and who’s food is who’s etc.,) but also to train them to react and behave in awkward situations. I’ve had toddlers lurch across the room, grab my dog’s faces and and poke at their eyes - and the toddlers got licked.

Special training? YOU SHOULD TRAIN YOUR ANIMALS PERIOD. you wouldn’t trust a cat to behave around a toddler, a dog, a parrot (nearly lost a finger meeting a white parrot once!), hells man/ma’am…

apply some sense to it all.

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So huge dogs should just remain ownerless?

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I agree in the sense that some dog breeds aren’t necessary and are actively unhealthy for the animal and the breed should be allowed to die out removing the ability for people to be owners of those breeds, and therefore ownerless

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They said only own dogs you can overpower. That means nobody gets a St. Bernard. I don’t think St. Bernard is a breed that should die out.

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This seems nuts. Is this not an insane opinion? You want entire dog breeds to go extinct? What are your thoughts on that one governor lady? lol

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-12 points

Send 'em to God.

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You are condoning killing dogs simply in response to their size?

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7 points

They should require a license to own and a reason to be bred

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There’s a difference between that and policies that discourage breeding, etc.

I don’t see many people advocating to outright kill dogs. There are a ton of pits in every shelter and yet people still run backyard breeding operations or tell everyone to get a pit. The breed would be better served if we told people they were more of an advanced breed that need the right kind of owners and environment.

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I noticed my guinea pigs have never tried to murder me. Granted in a home invasion they are pretty useless. Unless I like throw their squeaky bodies at said invader or overpower him and make him drink from the water dish as vengeance.

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They should be put down.

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Any dog can snap

Dishonest statement. That’s like saying “Any ceiling fan can decapitate you”. Technically true, but so extraordinarily unlikely for most breeds that you should be more worried about car crashes if you fear for your life…

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Animals are still animals. It isn’t dishonest to say that we should respect them and their space through understanding and recognizing their behavior. Don’t allow your love for an animal cloud the basic judgment that every animal may have its moment. Don’t be afraid, just be aware.

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All animals, including humans.

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Any ceiling fan can fall unexpectedly, but only an absurdly sturdy and powerful one will decapitate someone when it comes down

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What if you have a very dainty neck?

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I was about to say, you would need a LOT of force for a fan blade to cut through your neck meat all the way through. A domestic ceiling fan capable of decapitating someone would be completely excessive.

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Yep. We’re on the same page now!

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You don’t have a Big Ass Fan in your rec room!?

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27 points

Clearly, you have never pissed off a chihuahua.

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You say that like you’ve seen a calm Chihuahua.

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A Chihuahua can be yeeted into the stratosphere by 99% of humanity. Not so for other breeds

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My fat ass has consumed bigger meals than a mass of a Chihuahua.

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Any breed can produce a dog that is prone to snap.

Some breeds are much more likely to do so.

Of those, only a few are both prone to snap and large enough to hurt you.

Oh those, pit bills are far and away the most aggressive.

That said, most pitbulls really are fine. For being the most dangerous breed, there are millions of pitbulls, and a few thousand incidents over a few years.

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pit bulls were bred so that when they bite you, they don’t let go.

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You were on a roll until the end…

Why do people go out of their way to defend Pitbulls? This is a breed created by us, to hunt, kill, bite and never let go. They should not be used at pets. There are literarily thousands of good gentle dogs looking for homes, we don’t need to defend Pitbulls or keep breeding them.

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32 points

Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?

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Probably

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This one time I was dealing with an exhaust system that split to two separate paths. The blowers were so powerful that if one was on it could move the other backwards which caused the VFD on the other one to fault. It was pretty cool.

You should worry about ones like that.

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Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?

ceiling fan breeds

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I’d be careful with such stuff bought directly via temu or alibaba.

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“I don’t understand. I bought a ceiling fan with razor edge blades to scare off burglars, but it fell down and decapitated grandma”

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If a tiny dig nips at you most people laugh it off and you get a break in the skin at most. Happens all the time and no one blinks. If that happens and your dog is 90lbs you can die. Definitely not “extraordinarily unlikely”…just inconsequential for most breeds/sizes.

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I don’t think any ceiling fan could decapitate me. They are blunt wooden blades and the motor is like 1/3 HP but usually not on full.

So it’s like saying, “any fan might hit you in the head, don’t put a metal sharp-bladed industrial exhaust fan on your bedroom ceiling.”

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Hmm, you make a good point.

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Does Lemmy has a Ban Pitbulls community yet?

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Yum yum yum said the dog

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Shocking

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