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“No way to prevent this,” says only country where it happens every fucking day

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Yes, but at least it’s well regulated and for militia purposes-…oh, wait, that part of the constitution is for TP.

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Good!

Its about time someone held these corporations accountable.

For the peanut gallery: it’s not about the violence in games. It’s about not getting data tracked on every purchase. Just because someone bought a violent video game doesn’t mean they should be tracked and exposed to more guns just because the gun manufacturers want to sell a few more units.

It’s exposing the mentally ill to targeted marketing campaigns and pushing them down the extremism pipeline that meta has created.

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Accountable for what actions exactly? Depicting a photorealistic gun in a video game?

Note: not the downvote. Just want to understand.

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“In terms of the Call of Duty publisher’s alleged responsibility, the lawsuits seek to connect the promotion of real-world weaponry to “vulnerable” young men who are "insecure about their masculinity, often bullied, eager to show strength and assert dominance.”

“The suits reportedly paint a detailed picture of Daniel Defense’s aggressive marketing, using Facebook and Instagram to “bombard” Ramos with material glorifying assault rifles after he downloaded a Call of Duty: Modern Warfare game in November 2021.”

It’s targeted data stalking on the mentally unstable and pushing them to extremism.

There needs to be accountability and a stop to targeting people for the sake of profits.

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There have been numerous studies debunking links between violent video games and violence. This is the 80’s Satanic Panic all over again with a different wrapper and target.

400 police failed them, not activision. Then they voted for the same leadership at the next election. It’s like everyone from the first responders onward just takes turns reacting to this shooting in head scratching ways.

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They’re not intentionally targeting the mentally ill to sell them guns so they can perform crimes with them.

What’s happening is this mentally ill person was searching things, the algorithm caught on and sent them advertisements to persuade them to purchase more of the things he was looking at.

The algorithm doesn’t really care what it is as long as it qualifies in whatever marketing parameters they have.

Did the algorithm persuade or affect the person’s actions and promoted the crimes that they committed. Probably not. Do these predatory marketing firms have some kind of accountability? They probably do.

But not for the reasons that you think.

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Don’t you love it? Now the anti gun crowd is going to have to use Tue same arguments they pretend not to understand when defending videogames.

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Next time I read about a mass killing by someone firing fully automatic digital downloads of COD in a room full of children I will come back to this thread and apologize to you.

Until then, I will consider you to be an absolute twat waffle defending the vague wording in a “living document*” that promotes profit over mass murder.

(* back in the day we were taught in Civics class that the US constitution is a living document, meaning as society changes it too shall reflect the will of the people. At some point the education system dropped Civics classes because it gave way too much information to the masses and keeps the common person ignorant & therefore keeps them in place)

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I didn’t defend anything, I just pointed out the irony of “videogames don’t kill people, people kill people.”

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Perfect example of false equivalence.

I’m sure someone walking outside with a videogame is just as dangerous as somebody walking around with a gun. Exactly the same thing.

Anti Commercial-AI license

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? What argument is that?

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Gun makers in the USA cozying up to government law makers to keep gun laws loose especially with respect to export and control is the force driving gun violence in the USA. Follow the $$$.

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The most agonizing debate is one you agree with, but not nearly to the extreme degree of the position you’re responding to.

There are some nuts out there that literally only buy a certain gun because “it’s in Call of Duty and it’s cool.” Worse, this demographic are not likely to be responsible gun owners - they are not buying for any perceived need. They don’t lock their guns correctly, or keep ammo separate. Those guns are the type most likely to be stolen for use in a mass shooting (or used by their owners). Arguably, those guns are designed to appeal to this exact crowd, not serve as a functional tool or hobby item.

That said, there are much better targets for gun legislation than “scary looking black guns” or Call of Duty’s choice of theme.

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