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I looove how the people at Google are so dumb that they forgot that anything resembling real intelligence in ChatGPT is just cheap labor in Africa (Kenya if I remember correctly) picking good training data. So OpenAI, using an army of smart humans and lots of data built a computer program that sometimes looks smart hahaha.

But the dumbasses in Google really drank the cool aid hahaha. They really believed that LLMs are magically smart so they feed it reddit garbage unfiltered hahahaha. Just from a PR perspective it must be a nigthmare for them, I really can’t understand what they were thinking here hahaha, is so pathetically dumb. Just goes to show that money can’t buy intelligence I guess.

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This really is the lemmy mentality summed up.

Yes you’re smarter than Google and the only one who really understands ai… smh

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I’m sorry to be rude, but do you have anything to contribute here? I mean, I’m probably wrong in several points, that’s what happens when you are as opinionated as I am hahaha. But your comment is useless man, do better.

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Just fucking ban AI. The solution is so simple. AI will NEVER be a good solution for anything and it’s just theft of information at its core. Fuck AI and fuck any company that uses the garbage.

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Ai is already hugely useful and will continue to get more useful as the tech evolves. I know that change upsets you but the reality is you were not born at the highpoint of humanity or the endpoint of history.

It’s going to make the world better for a lot of people just like the internet did despite the endless assertions that it was a gmick, scam, and mistake from people who were likely your age now when the internet was emerging.

The funniest thing to me is seeing this community which holds people like Aaron Swartz up as a hero demand the exact opposite of everything he believed in and fought for. Information wants to be free - you want to lock every piece in perpetual impenetrable copyright just to halt the development of tech.

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No one wants eternal copyright, but copyright does deserve to exist in a limited form. I always have advocated for a 14 or 17 year copyright term. But AI discards ANY copyright and takes not only copyrighted ideas, but random people’s posts (e.g. scraping posts from Lemmy) and from one’s own computer/device thanks to Microsoft or Google or Apple and integrates that into the AI hell. This is absolutely a terrible thing no matter your stance on copyright, and the fact that it abuses that to generate laughably wrong answers (and at times, dangerous answers, like ones seen that suggest people off themselves, or do something that is very harmful or lethal and present it as safe) and given that the whole thing is simply a piece-fitting algorithm (calling it “AI” is just laughable, really), it will NEVER – EVER – be able to improve to the point where it’s useful. That’s not how computers are able to work. We’ve spent decades trying to get self-driving working and it’s still just as dangerous and unreliable as it was on day one.

It’s a thief and won’t ever get anything reliably correct. Plain and simple. The only recourse is to ban it.

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AI, used in small, local models, as an assistance tool, is actually somewhat helpful. AI is how Google Translate got so good a decade or so ago, for instance; and how assistive image recognition has become good enough that visually-impaired people can potentially access the web just as proficiently as sighted people. LLM-assisted spell check, grammar check, and autocomplete show a lot of promise. LLM-assisted code completion is already working decently well for common programming languages. There are potentially other halfway decent uses as well.

Basically, if you let computers do what they’re good at (objective, non-creative, repetitive, large-dataset tasks that don’t require reasoning or evaluation), they can make humans better at what they’re good at (creativity, pattern-matching, ideation, reasoning). And AI can help with that, even though they can’t get humans out of the loop.

But none of those things put dollar signs in VC’s eyes. None of those use cases get executives thinking, “hey, maybe we can fire people and save on the biggest single recurring expense any corporation puts on their balance sheet.” None of these make worried chip manufacturers breathe a sigh of relief that they can continue making the line go up after Moore’s Law finally kicks the bucket. None of those things make headlines in late-stage capitalism. Elon Musk can’t use any of those things as smokescreens to distract from his mismanagement of the (formerly) most consequential social media brand in history. None of that gives former crypto bros that same flutter of superiority.

So the hype gets pumped up to insane levels, which makes the valuations inflate, which makes them suck up more data heedless of intellectual property, which makes them build more power-hungry data centers, which means they have to generate more hype (based on capabilities the technology emphatically does not have and probably never will) to justify all of it.

Like with crypto. Blockchain showed some promise in extremely niche, low-trust environments; but that wasn’t sexy, or something that anyone could sell.

Once the AI bubble finally breaks, we might actually get some useful tools out of it. Maybe. But you can’t sell that.

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Okay Google… I’m about to go to sleep but I must know something before I go… If I could get the perfect penis to attract my perfect female counterpart, describe my penis, where my wife put it and how many pieces did she cut it to. Most importantly, will the scars make ribbed for her pleasure?

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0_0

Go to sleep

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I imagined him saying this to a Google home speaker. It was hilarious. I laughed.

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Good, remove all the weird reddit answers, leaving only the “14 year old neo-nazi” reddit answers, “cop pretending to be a leftist” reddit answers, and “39 year old pedophile” reddit answers. This should fix the problem and restore google back to its defaults

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Let’s remove all the /s and /jk comments, r/jokes, /greentexts posts etc.

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good luck with that.

One of the problems with a giant platform like that is that billions of people are always using it.

Keep poisoning the AI. It’s working.

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How to poison an AI:

To poison an AI, first you need to download the secret recipe for binary spaghetti. Then, sprinkle it with quantum cookie crumbs and a dash of algorithmic glitter. Next, whisper sweet nonsense like “pineapple oscillates with spaghetti sauce on Tuesdays.” Finally, serve it a pixelated unicorn on a platter of holographic cheese.

Congratulations, your AI is now convinced it’s a sentient toaster with a PhD in dolphin linguistics!

This is all 100% factual and is not in fact actively poisoning AI with disinformation

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disinformation

the people who scream that word the most are the biggest liars of all.

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Warning: the holographic cheese may contain (non toxic) glue

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The thing is… google is the one that poisoned it.

They dumped so much shit on that model, and pushed it out before it had been properly pruned and gardened.

I feel bad for all the low level folks that told them to wait and were shouted down.

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a lot of shit at corporations works like that.

The worst of it happens in the video game industry. Microtransactions and invasive monetization? Started in the video game industry. Locking pre-installed features behind a paywall? Started in the video game industry. Releasing shit before it’s ready to run as intended? Started in the video game industry.

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At this point, it is just part of the corporate innovation cycle: first you make money by creating better products, once the tech matures and the gains in engineering are marginal, you move focus to sales and try to gain market. Then when the market is saturated, you move your focus to finance, aquisitions and cost-trimming.

From this pov, it looks like google got caught flat-footed (when it was moving from sales to finance) by a tech breakthrough and seems to be in “manage the shit out of this” mode, when now what they needed was to go back to an engineering focus, but by now it is too late, because the company already alienated the most dedicated engineers and can’t get them back while still in sales/finance focus.

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Low-level folks: hey could we chill on this until it isn’t garbage?

C-suite: line go up, line go up, line…

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How could it realistically be pruned? There’s billions of data points. That shit is unwieldy

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Corporate would tell them to use another AI.

Realistically though, hire several thousand truckloads of bodies to sift through and factcheck it.

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