145 points

This woman is shameless

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64 points

I hope history will be harsh towards her.

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88 points

She couldn’t care less. She’s aiming for a Supreme Court pick if Trump gets re-elected. She’d be a perfect replacement for Clarence Thomas.

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If a reckoning came her way, would it be a supreme Court thing right away? I do worry she’ll skate if it is … but I half worry J. Alito or J. Thomas feel they could simply whack a progressive counterpart and then have no court in which to defend themselves … and thus skate as well to open up space for her.

Nightmare fuel and nothing more, of course.

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22 points

Considering that right now fascists are gaining power everywhere in the “western world”, it doesn’t seem likely. Well, not until decades and probably a bloody war or two later, at any rate.

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10 points

Fascist regimes don’t last long because they all eventually turn their violence inward. They breed the sort of mistrust and lack of questioning that don’t make them effective societies.

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And she’ll be a footnote, after she’s spent her life ensconced in power and being showered with gifts for serving the cause. She’ll have a much nicer life than people who had integrity and cared about their fellow man, but we’ll be comforted that someday she’ll get her judgement.

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15 points

I hope contemporary will be harsh towards her.

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9 points

Why wait? She’ll live a long life. There’s plenty of time to hold her accountable for aiding and abetting Trump.

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1 point

She probably would not have denied it had the prosecutors had a 3-7 minute conversation with Trump’s defense and had determined they couldn’t have come to an agreement. Prosecutorial arrogance allowed them to just ignore procedure and they figured they could get away with it.

Also, if the prosecutors have such good evidence, maybe instead of worrying so much about what Trump is speechifying on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, they could just prosecute him? Are they really afraid that a jury is so stupid that they are going to be persuaded by Trump ranting tweets or Xes or whatever they are called now on that enshitified platform? Either they have weak evidence or this is just a power play to try to control Trump’s ability to say what he wants (and ignore the court rules) and they thought they could get away with it.

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6 points

This is the equivalent of thoughts and prayers. Get out and organize

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3 points

Not much I can do on my end, considering I don’t live in the US. I’ll keep watching the dumpster fire from above.

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12 points

she’s doing exactly what she was appointed to do.

I still find it mind-boggling that she’s even participating in the case, much less judging (adjudicating?) it.

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if the court rules are that both sides are supposed to talk to determine what is reasonable to discuss and not discuss, and the prosecutor just totally ignored that because “who cares” and Trump is clearly out of line, then the prosecutor still ignored the court rules. good for that judge for asserting that prosecutors can’t just do whatever they want. i thought her words were actually funny and clever. she’s pointing out that the rules specify it’s really supposed to be a meaningful attempt, not just faking it or ignoring it or trivially trying to say they tried. A gag order is a big limit to free speech, I wish they were never even allowed, but she’s at least being sensible with this and rejecting it on a limited basis based on procedural reasons

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9 points

That may fly if Trump already didn’t have a history of skirting or outright defying gag orders already. This lady needs to be removed immediately on nat sec grounds. This is fucking absurd.

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Even if you don’t like Trump, procedural fairness is important. You aren’t supposed to just ignore procedure when it comes to a defendant being criminally prosecuted. There has been a trend of more and more procedural fairness being ignored because prosecutors know they can get away with it and it will be meaningless on appeal. The judge had to rule this way and if she hadn’t she would have been a horrible judge. What is sad is that it actually had to be appealed to get to the level of normal procedural fairness. Even very awful people are supposed to get fair procedure in the US. The time procedure and fairness matter most is when someone is being deprived of liberty, that’s when you want the rules to be fair, not broken. What would have been a better ruling? If she said “Eh, it’s fine, the prosecutors can do whatever and it won’t matter on appeal anyway because of the harmless error rule.” Gag orders should also be illegal. The First Amendment was not supposed to be some weak idea that occasionally let’s people speak their views. It’s supposed to protect people like Trump who many people think have detestable speech.

Also, I hate Trump’s views on Trans people and his treatment towards those who are different or he perceives as different. I have never voted for Trump. Give this judge a break, that was a good ruling.

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89 points

So a judge appointed by Trump doesn’t want to tell Trump to shut up? Who would have ever guessed.

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12 points

Yes appointed by Trump but confirmed by 11 Democrats and 45 Republicans. And we could say those not in the roll call tacitly voted to confirm so that’s another 13 Democrats who confirmed her. Trump can get fucked, but just like Biden, the president was/is not solely responsible for what happens in the world.

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I guess this is the good preview of what the case would devolve to.

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75 points

From the article:

“In a brief order, Cannon slammed prosecutors for not following the court’s rules by failing to meaningfully confer with Trump’s defense lawyers about a potential gag order before making the request.”

Maybe it’s just me but this sounds an awful lot like she’s denying the motion because the prosecutors…didn’t ask the Trump team for permission to file the motion? Am I reading that right? The prosecution needs permission from the defense to file a motion for a gag order?

Lawyers, please tell me that Cannon is once again just being extraordinarily stupid. This can’t be normal, right? To me, this is like a domestic abuse victim having to ask the abuser for the right get a restraining order.

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As I understand it, they don’t need to ask permission, but they need to make an actual attempt at a diplomatic resolution before making the formal request. If that doesn’t go to their liking, then they would speak to the judge.

It should have been a formality, because in all likelihood, the defense would have politely told the prosecutors to get fucked, but they really shouldn’t have skipped that step.

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Your honor, I have a hundred examples of Trump violating gag orders from/checks notes/ the past 2 weeks. Asking them would be an insult in the first place.

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Maybe it’s a good way to test the waters to add to their concrete examples of bias.

It’s not like they expect the gag order to be followed or enforced anyway. Judge Merchan has enough issues with that, and we already know Cannon will have less than no interest.

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26 points

This is what “justice” is for the rich. The rest of us would be serving time in double digits by now. They just get the judges in their pockets to pull strings.

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just

This is what leads me to worry you’re oversimplifying something. Is it cool if we avoid the generalizations here? We can all confidently say Mr Trump isn’t a very upstanding cretin, but don’t let him take your rep down.

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2 points

It really depends on what these rules are

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65 points

Cannon said "that prosecutors’ request was ‘wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy’ ”

IMAX levels of projection there.

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46 points

Anyone else tired of that smug headshot every news article uses of her? If this woman a recluse? How are there no other photos of her?

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That’s probably the official photo published by the government.

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I just assume she has resting smug face.

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