118 points

Tell your friend to log the IP address and report it to the authorities. They might need to turn over the entire modlog as well

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This is likely in reference to the federation of such images posted elsewhere

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There’s always someone who doesn’t mind ruining it for everyone else. Probably safest to just delete all the images, that way there’s no need to look.

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Bad actors will try to nuke the entire platform to maintain a monopoly on this format of communication and community.

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35 points

Who could you posspezibly be referring to?

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3 points

Is it the android? The lone skum? Or someone else entirely?

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65 points

Once again reaffirming why I refuse to host an instance. If I ever do, I’m not federating with any of you degenerates lol

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Federation still causes those images to be saved on your hardware, even if the account that creates it is hosted somewhere else.

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It’s serious flaw of federation #19865438736 that’ll go ignored even when innocent instance admins end up getting jailed over it

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This is kinda a major problem with lemmy, and the idea that they don’t have CSAM detection on the roadmap is going to make wide adoption a near impossibility. The other thing though is that even automated CSAM detection isn’t 100%, so hosting your own instance likely means you’re going to have to view CSAM and other fucked up shit at some point to properly moderate it, even if you’re just hosting for yourself. Tbh I was strongly considering hosting my own instance because it’s not like, that hard/expensive, but this saga has turned me completely off of that idea, even just for myself.

This actually makes me wonder how much reddit mods deal with this type of thing instead of paid employees like facebook, which has a paid army dealing with content moderation on facebook. Oh, and talking about xitter now which has neither volunteer mods and no moderation team since Elon fired them all, I assume that the freaks have just decided that’s their hosting platform of choice.

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I’ll be honest, I’m probably just going to do a scheduled wipe of the pictrs directory of my local instance every week or whatever. I’ve done them manually a few times and they’ve had zero affect on my experience.

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I think it was an issue where the CSAM was being copied to servers via normal federation with the instance(s) being spammed.

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I’m glad s/he was able to nuke the CSAM, even if other material was nuked with it. This crap is why I’m not hosting.

Please, call it CSAM (child sexual abuse material) and not CP (child pornography). The children in these photos/videos can’t make pornography, they’re sexually abused into making this material. CP insinuates that it’s legitimate porn with children. CSAM, on the other hand, calls it what it is: sexual abuse of children.

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That is needlessly pedantic. I have never heard of anyone using the word pornography to imply legality or moral acceptability. There is no such thing as “legitimate” CP, so there is no need to specify that it’s not ok every time it is mentioned. No one in their right mind would presume he’s some kind of CP supporting monster for failing to do so.

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If we spent more time fixing things rather than naming them the world would be a better place.

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No one in their right mind would assume that OP is. But the term was created to legitimize the material. So, while you’re correct in that it is picky, it is also picky for a reason. Words are powerful. We should fight to not empower the legitimation of that term, among other things.

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But the term was created to legitimize the material.

Do you have a source for that? I can’t find anything that states the origin of the term itself is seedy. Besides, it’s just a plain description: it’s pornography with children in it.

The only sources I can find that support CSAM over CP claim that CP somehow implies consent. But I’m saying that simply isn’t the case. I am not saying that words arent powerful. I am not saying that no words ever need to be changed. I am saying that these words don’t need to be changed.

Based on those same sources, I’d speculate that this outrage is just misplaced anger. They almost immediately start talking about how bad sexual abuse is, which is not really relevant to whether it should be called CP or CSAM. Just because CP is bad, does not mean the term CP is bad.

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Just because you aren’t affected doesn’t mean it is no problem. This isn’t needlessly pedantic, it just shows your ignorance and idiocy.

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Not even close. Giving it a new name doesn’t magically fix the problem. Join the real world, no matter what name you give something, it’s still the same thing.

If I really wanted to seek some sort of discrepancy in the way its being named I’d argue youre changing the name so you can one day defend yourself by calling your noncey stash “legitimate” and therefore it is abuse material.

All in all, who gives a fuck what name its got. It’s pure, unadulterated idiocy to think abused children are hurting because of the fact us non-abusers call it child porn and not sexual abuse material.

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