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I’m glad s/he was able to nuke the CSAM, even if other material was nuked with it. This crap is why I’m not hosting.

Please, call it CSAM (child sexual abuse material) and not CP (child pornography). The children in these photos/videos can’t make pornography, they’re sexually abused into making this material. CP insinuates that it’s legitimate porn with children. CSAM, on the other hand, calls it what it is: sexual abuse of children.

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That is needlessly pedantic. I have never heard of anyone using the word pornography to imply legality or moral acceptability. There is no such thing as “legitimate” CP, so there is no need to specify that it’s not ok every time it is mentioned. No one in their right mind would presume he’s some kind of CP supporting monster for failing to do so.

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No one in their right mind would assume that OP is. But the term was created to legitimize the material. So, while you’re correct in that it is picky, it is also picky for a reason. Words are powerful. We should fight to not empower the legitimation of that term, among other things.

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But the term was created to legitimize the material.

Do you have a source for that? I can’t find anything that states the origin of the term itself is seedy. Besides, it’s just a plain description: it’s pornography with children in it.

The only sources I can find that support CSAM over CP claim that CP somehow implies consent. But I’m saying that simply isn’t the case. I am not saying that words arent powerful. I am not saying that no words ever need to be changed. I am saying that these words don’t need to be changed.

Based on those same sources, I’d speculate that this outrage is just misplaced anger. They almost immediately start talking about how bad sexual abuse is, which is not really relevant to whether it should be called CP or CSAM. Just because CP is bad, does not mean the term CP is bad.

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If we spent more time fixing things rather than naming them the world would be a better place.

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Just because you aren’t affected doesn’t mean it is no problem. This isn’t needlessly pedantic, it just shows your ignorance and idiocy.

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Not even close. Giving it a new name doesn’t magically fix the problem. Join the real world, no matter what name you give something, it’s still the same thing.

If I really wanted to seek some sort of discrepancy in the way its being named I’d argue youre changing the name so you can one day defend yourself by calling your noncey stash “legitimate” and therefore it is abuse material.

All in all, who gives a fuck what name its got. It’s pure, unadulterated idiocy to think abused children are hurting because of the fact us non-abusers call it child porn and not sexual abuse material.

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I’m not gonna lie, I’m surprised it took this long for some dipshit to try something like this. Lemmy’s security has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese and we’re fools if we think it’s viable enough for it to serve as a long-term home for new social media.

We really, really need a better social structure than federation.

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Lemmy’s security has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese

This has very little to do with security. There’s inherently “insecure” about posting CSAM, since the accounts and images were likely posted just like any other.

What really needs to happen, is some sort of detection of that kind of content (which would likely require a large change to code) or additional moderation tools.

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The lack of those tools is what I was talking about

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Ah okay, those arent generally considered security but I can understand why you went that route I suppose.

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Lemmy’s security

I think you mis-spelled moderation tools, nice quick fix would have been to block posts from new users on X instance and have a pinned post briefly covering why - they’ll eventually run out of instances that don’t have open signups IMO or just give up.

Another mod tools option would be rate limiting of posts, i.e. users can only make a new shitpost every 10-15min, rather than unlimited times per minute

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Those are all fundamental aspects of Lemmy’s security that should be there but are not

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a the rapist

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I know that guy Tobias Fünke, althought he also is a analysist. He had some clever abreviation for that as well!

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In the meanwhile, my YunoHost based instance that still hasn’t managed to make Pict-RS work and therefore can’t even store images even if it wanted to is doing juuuuust fine

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Come to think of it, if you’re the only user, it’s kinda protecting you, isn’t it? (hello fellow Yunohost user!)

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