While other flatpak apps have no problems. Any suggestions?
I’m so glad to use a distro with 0 flatpak/snap/whatever, my FF is always the latest one, with a simple .deb install from apt, ❤️ MX Linux
Native packages? Sorry.
Sorry for what? I’m trying a fresh install of Bazzite so the distro prefers flatpaks.
IMHO I would avoid the ublue distros and just go for official fedora spins. The guys have good intentions, but they don’t have the means to maintain that many distros “properly”. I often end up enabling copr packages for bazzite in my fedora install, just to find out the program doesn’t work.
That being said, as the other comments told you, you can still install native apps on immutable distros, it’s just a bit more work. I don’t expect distrobox or toolbox to be much faster than flatpak, as they are all just containers with a nice cli, except flatpak is easier to update. But trying costs nothing
I’ve “solved” using distrobox, it work pretty well and I don’t see any lag. Bazzite is a very good distro imho, the problem is more on Firefox here.
but they don’t have the means to maintain that many distros “properly”
That’s why they’re not separate distros from Fedora (as in, they don’t even host their own RPM repos nor maintain their own set of Fedora packages like Manjaro vs Arch) and purposefully so. It’s just stock Fedora with a few configs, third party repos/packages, and some scripts preinstalled. The entire thing runs on GH actions.
Yeah that is a dumb decision of the uBlue folks. I really like their tooling but their Flatpak browser stuff (and a bit more) are annoying.
You also cant even layer Firefox, due to this rpm-ostree bug
https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4554
Make some noise there if you want.
Just curious why you think it’s dumb. I think it’s a great idea, since it gives more protection by containerizing the app.
Like I told OP, I haven’t had any particularly long load times, but “long” is a subjective measure, after all.
Probably best that you do the same (installing packages in the FS overlay kind of starts to defeat the point of containerization). You could try installing it with a distrobox and then exporting the app—see if that fixes your loading issues.
I run Bazzite on a gaming laptop from 2015, and I haven’t noticed any particularly long load times. Do you have some browser extension(s) that are maybe causing issues?
My only extension is uBlock Origin but it isn’t the problem (I uninstalled it to test and nothing changed). Thanks for your suggestion, I’ll try to play with distrobox (I’m new to Bazzite and immutable distros).
I have many flatpak apps bork down on me (steam, wine, emulators…) just install from your distro repo instead and only use flatpak if you don’t have other choices
Firefox is one of the few exceptions I suggest always use native version
If it is due to an inefficiency of Firefox it seems strange to me that no fork has solved the problem, other browsers like Brave work perfectly.
Flatpak Firefox and Chromium are very different. Note that Flatpak Firefox starts normally fast for me.
Use the native version, it is one of the best maintained software and has access to “user namespaces” for isolation.
Now search on the internet what that is XD
The only “Firefox” not presenting this start issue for me is Floorp but it’s proprietary.
Not only because of performance issues, but also because it’s clunky sometimes. For example, I cannot use KeePassXC Browser extension on Flatpak Firefox cause this implementation is borked. However in native version works flawlessly
The extension is probably not broken because of Firefox but because Flatpak’s sandboxing prevents it from talking to KeePassXC.
I noticed this too on my slowest machine. I guess you should just use native packages or other formats to fix it (as the other person said). I’d stick with Flatpak if possible though. It’s more secure
