Putin goes on to say

”Our proposal is not to freeze the conflict, like how the west wants it, but to end it. I repeat, this is not to freeze the conflict, but for its final completion.”

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of course this very reasonable list will be framed as evil putler’s ravings 😈

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I think this is just about setting the legal precedent, make sure that there are official negotiations more recent than April '22. This refusal will certainly be referenced in the future when they will make further demands using this as a justification i.e you had the chance, you refused and caused even more harm, therefore we are in our right to demand further compensation.

There are also other factors to consider, the situation for Ukrainian civilians is getting worse, electricity is almost completely out and it is going to get much worse. Putting an official record that Russia is willing to end the war now is certainly going to affect a significant part of the population.

Obviously its not like stupid democracy shit is real at all, they’re not going to protest their way into a peace deal with Russia, but this can lead to civil unrest which means even less manpower which just ultimately means Russia continues to steamroll.

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he talks to ukrainians (and global south), the west is rabid

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They’ll probably only listen if he actually nukes someone or something

This is exactly why Putin is trying, because you’re correct there are only two options. Humanity only have two options in front of them, and it would be stupid to not try the good option first. Either we give peace a chance or we die.

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Reddit is going to be insufferable about this isn’t it?

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It’s funny how it’s bad to give the Nazis Czechoslovakia, but it’s also bad not to give them the entirety of Poland.

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Nice try Pulter, the walls are closing in and ur desperate. The RuZZan army will collapse as we send a battalion of 70 year old conscripts we kidnapped from a retirement village to capture Moscow. We have enough adult diapers to last them weeks.

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