I thought TunnelVision applies to all VPN users that don’t use firewall / network namespaces

Actually my firewall is persistent, just like many of the other good VPN clients, so “kill switch” is a bit of a misnomer. Which is why I called it wg-lockdown, named after Mullvad’s lockdown mode. Persistent firewalls are effective, they just add a very tiny side-channel, as discussed in the link in my post. I just used the terms “kill switch” in my post because that’s what many other people use.

Though the point about the LAN is a good point, I didn’t consider that. I added LAN access because without it, the firewall was interfering with the networking of my docker container and virtual machines, which use local subnets. Even the official Mullvad client has issues with this. What do you recommend in this case? Manually whitelist the local subnets used by docker and my other virtual networks?

Edit: actually upon reading Mullvad’s statement on TunnelVision, I realized that my firewall is still effective because it only allows traffic directed to LAN IP’s to bypass the VPN. So regular internet traffic will be blocked if the attacker tries to redirect it to the LAN. I’m glad I used Mullvad as a reference implementation 😅

Isn’t gluetun for docker? Are there people running it on the host system?

I’m no network security expert, so I mainly followed Mullvad VPN for my implementation. I looked at the nftables rules that official Mullvad linux client uses, and also their document here: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvadvpn-app/blob/main/docs/security.md.

Though if you have any alternatives for vanilla wireguard users like me, I’ll gladly switch. I know somebody mentioned Gluetun but I thought that was for docker only. Do you know of any others?

what features are you talking about?

Using untrusted networks is quite common, like coffee shop wifi or airport wifi.

How do you route all a host system’s traffic through Gluetun? If you use routing tables, wouldn’t it similarly be affected by TunnelVision? In which case you would still need a firewall on the host…

Also, the host system likely makes network requests right after boot, before a Gluetun container has time to start. How do you make sure those don’t leak?

I am curious though, how you were able to route all host traffic through Gluetun. I know it can be used as a http/socks proxy, but I only know of ways to configure your browser to use that. What about other applications and system-level services? What about other kinds of traffic, like ssh?

I saw that but unfortunately it doesn’t detail how to set it up persistently on every boot. And I also haven’t seen anybody using this method, probably because of the lack of tooling around it. For example afaik the official Mullvad client on linux just uses a firewall.

Do you know how to make it so all the host’s traffic is sent through the VPN namespace? I couldn’t figure out how to do this so I ended up just writing my own firewall. Network namespaces seems like a better solution.

I think you both are talking past each other. You said “But if nobody else is using those same endpoints.” but @MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world said “There’s plenty of people who are going to be renting VPSes and will have their traffic originate from the same IP range as mine”. Reading this thread, it seems like you both have different network setups in mind.