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Even the people who pay for insurance don’t have rights either.

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Americans have eaten at the garbage pale of ideology for so long, they genuinely believe “rights” really are God Given and self-executing. What does a “right” to health care get you without a public health care system?

Who overrules the hospital administrators that would rather shovel you onto the curb than have the physicians in their employee extend you care? Who overrules the AMA when it caps the number of licenses to provide or schools to issue those licenses or lobbies to limit the number of medical centers capable of providing care?

Health care has to come from somewhere. Doctors need training. Offices need equipment. X-Ray machines need electricity. Patients need a place they can go to receive care. As folks from the UK to Cuba to Gaza have discovered, if you’re denied the resources to provide the health care you have a right to, it isn’t worth much.

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Are you a Bit dumb or just pretending to be?

All of this can be solved with Legislation, and even the shittiest place in the UK has better health Outcomes and Life Expectancy than the average US Citizen

https://images.app.goo.gl/Tx5AND8ixrFqxc5n8

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All of this can be solved with Legislation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_Cat

A great idea that nobody can accomplish isn’t so great.

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As folks from the UK to Cuba to Gaza have discovered, if you’re denied the resources to provide the health care you have a right to, it isn’t worth much.

Fun fact: two of those three have far better outcomes than the US for profit system and the last one likely would if not for the US government supplying the bombs and political cover to destroy it.

Basically all you’ve managed to prove is that you’re ignorant about the quality and availability of health care in other countries and will compare for profit healthcare to genocide and ethnic cleansing in order to make it look good.

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They’re right about the God given rights thing though. People really heard God given and thought that meant nobody could take them away.

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The obvious answer is that Medicare for All would be a great place to start in the USA. If not that, then laws limiting the ridiculous profits of insurance companies and regulating payouts would be another option, combined with some kind of Medicare for the poor that is better than the current Medicaid bullshit they have available.

Most of all, ensuring that doctors rather than insurance companies are deciding the care plan would save many lives per year.

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I like the AOC idea of rapidly decreasing the Medicare age until it hits zero.

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Insurance companies should be forced to be nonprofits.

Edit: I mean we should have MfA but at the least hospitals and insurance companies should be nonprofit.

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