Even the people who pay for insurance don’t have rights either.
Americans have eaten at the garbage pale of ideology for so long, they genuinely believe “rights” really are God Given and self-executing. What does a “right” to health care get you without a public health care system?
Who overrules the hospital administrators that would rather shovel you onto the curb than have the physicians in their employee extend you care? Who overrules the AMA when it caps the number of licenses to provide or schools to issue those licenses or lobbies to limit the number of medical centers capable of providing care?
Health care has to come from somewhere. Doctors need training. Offices need equipment. X-Ray machines need electricity. Patients need a place they can go to receive care. As folks from the UK to Cuba to Gaza have discovered, if you’re denied the resources to provide the health care you have a right to, it isn’t worth much.
The obvious answer is that Medicare for All would be a great place to start in the USA. If not that, then laws limiting the ridiculous profits of insurance companies and regulating payouts would be another option, combined with some kind of Medicare for the poor that is better than the current Medicaid bullshit they have available.
Most of all, ensuring that doctors rather than insurance companies are deciding the care plan would save many lives per year.
Insurance companies should be forced to be nonprofits.
Edit: I mean we should have MfA but at the least hospitals and insurance companies should be nonprofit.
As folks from the UK to Cuba to Gaza have discovered, if you’re denied the resources to provide the health care you have a right to, it isn’t worth much.
Fun fact: two of those three have far better outcomes than the US for profit system and the last one likely would if not for the US government supplying the bombs and political cover to destroy it.
Basically all you’ve managed to prove is that you’re ignorant about the quality and availability of health care in other countries and will compare for profit healthcare to genocide and ethnic cleansing in order to make it look good.
They’re right about the God given rights thing though. People really heard God given and thought that meant nobody could take them away.
Are you a Bit dumb or just pretending to be?
All of this can be solved with Legislation, and even the shittiest place in the UK has better health Outcomes and Life Expectancy than the average US Citizen
All of this can be solved with Legislation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_Cat
A great idea that nobody can accomplish isn’t so great.
If everyone just said fuck it and stopped paying their insurance, it would crash not just those companies, but domino into taking out the entire stock market.
Like, these companies are worth so much, and they invest in others and people invest in them. If their entire revenue stream is stopped at once that’s it.
Which makes it kind of a nuclear option, one I’ve intentionally not mentioned and haven’t seen anyone else either.
But the day may be coming
Corporations mainly pay for health insurance. Imagine employee’s reactions being told they were getting cut off. Not going to happen.
If the employee cancels their plan, the corp ain’t going to keep paying.
I don’t know why someone would read my comment and imagine I meant corporations should cancel their employees insurance…
But I think that’s what happened here
When someone stops paying their insurance, they stop getting healthcare. Most people don’t want that.
It’s kind of like saying “If everyone said fuck it and set their car on fire, then oil companies would suffer”. Yes, but they aren’t the only ones who would suffer.
When someone stops paying their insurance, they stop getting healthcare.
When people pay their insurance, they don’t get healthcare either.
No, they generally do get health care. In fact, most insured adults give their health insurance an overall rating of “excellent” or “good”, even if they are in poor health.
It’s true that there are horror stories, but those are not the majority.
Surely people will have better access to health care once the system has “crashed”!
Well, the people who survive can rebuild it as they see fit, anyway.
I have no reason to think that the general public will suddenly be more organized than the surviving oligarchs.
Which is exactly why we’ll never have single payer: It would crash the economy and put millions out of work.
Downvote me all you want but it’s the exact reason Obama gave for not pushing single payer
I’m not sure how that puts people out of work? Still need people to process the claims, they would just work for the government vs the company. Which for them would probably be better long term getting federal benefits and retirement.
I always figured a great deal of those people would move to government work. They already have the expertise.
The problem is that there are large parts of those companies that are replicated multiple times that would be made redundant.
Each company has an IT department, legal department, marketing department, and claims department, among a lot else. Most of those would be redundant or unnecessary in a single payer system.
Part of the reason single payer is more cost effective is eliminating administrative overhead. And “administrative overhead “ is code for jobs.
For the same reason not paying our insurance will crash the economy: Big parts of it would go out of business.
I’m not suggesting you’re wrong, but isn’t there an obvious inefficiency here that reduces the standard of care provided?
Like if a national healthcare system doubles the number of administrators involved, there will be less money available for actual health stuff.
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Privatize ALL the health insurance companies.
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Reduce inefficiencies (fire all the parasites that don’t do actual work, like the CEO’s, etc)
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Continue operations as normal, but now with 100% guaranteed claim coverage.
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Over time, phase out the need for people to “deal with insurance” at all and make the whole thing transparent.
Just wish the US would get a universal healthcare system like every freaking other developed country in this world. Will never happen. Ugh.
Nah, the Republicans would rather see you spend twice as much per capita (the whole population!) to cover a third of the population via public insurance and then get you guys to then spend money on private insurance and then have to pay any time you need any care.
You know… Fiscal responsibility…
To be fair Kamala was also against Medicare for All
EDIT: Y’all need to learn to Google basic shit before rage downvoting facts you don’t like: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-kamala-harris-ditched-medicare-for-all/
Pretty sure she supports it, as she did 4 years ago, but her campaign told her not to show support for it in order to court the Republicans that were on the fence.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-kamala-harris-ditched-medicare-for-all/
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Wish granted. The government is now responsible for paying whatever premiums the health insurance companies demand. But everyone with a social security number is covered.
Somebody call Luigi.
