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Fake vegans(sopuli.xyz)

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they’re unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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That’s not how it works. Just because someone is letting you listen in doesn’t mean you deserve a platform in their spaces

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Spamming propaganda and erasing all criticism isn’t “letting” you do anything. It’s shouting in your ear and slapping you for backsass.

When the enforced opinions of a space are all that space is about… that’s a circlejerk. It’s nothing like a knitting community with a ‘no racism’ policy, despite identical mechanisms. It exists solely to push an agenda. They don’t want federation. They demand a docile audience.

You have to admit it’s kind of funny that Lemmy’s clearest example of this is militant vegans.

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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Nobody is forcing you to go into the spaces where they’re “spamming propaganda”. Nobody forces you to subscribe to those comms and nothing is preventing your from blocking them altogether. You still don’t deserve a platform in those comms.

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Well I didn’t invite it and yet here it is in my feed. They didn’t put it there for gentle outreach. It’s all posts by [thing]lover@[thing].org, in the [thing]ism@[thing].org community, to exclusively talk about [thing] by promoting exactly one opinion about [thing]. Spam spam spam spam and absolutely no eggs.

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