Lemdro.id

1 point

27 days ago

Spamming propaganda and erasing all criticism isn’t “letting” you do anything. It’s shouting in your ear and slapping you for backsass.

When the enforced opinions of a space are all that space is about… that’s a circlejerk. It’s nothing like a knitting community with a ‘no racism’ policy, despite identical mechanisms. It exists solely to push an agenda. They don’t want federation. They demand a docile audience.

You have to admit it’s kind of funny that Lemmy’s clearest example of this is militant vegans.

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM

5 points

27 days ago

Nobody is forcing you to go into the spaces where they’re “spamming propaganda”. Nobody forces you to subscribe to those comms and nothing is preventing your from blocking them altogether. You still don’t deserve a platform in those comms.

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1 point

27 days ago

Well I didn’t invite it and yet here it is in my feed. They didn’t put it there for gentle outreach. It’s all posts by [thing]lover@[thing].org, in the [thing]ism@[thing].org community, to exclusively talk about [thing] by promoting exactly one opinion about [thing]. Spam spam spam spam and absolutely no eggs.

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM

7 points

27 days ago

If you’re going to /all, you’re going to see posts in all comms. Still is not a permissions or invite to a platform in every comm without respecting their rules. You’re being deliberately obtuse.

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0 points

27 days ago

Maybe if everyone who wanders into a public-facing hot-take factory goes away scorned, that place is not compatible with being public-facing.

Surely the central point of this community is acknowledging that moderators can fuck up. Sometimes, having a very public forum in the first place is fucking up. The freedom-of-association to say ‘well they’re allowed to set the rules’ doesn’t fix how some rules will cause problems. Some rules are a misery engine. For freshly-slapped users, for burned-out moderators, or for everyone involved.

If your community federates all over the place, you’re going to get users of all stripes. They didn’t sneak in. You did in fact invite everyone. That’s not carte blanche for all behavior - but if the behavior you exclude seems reasonable to nearly everyone else, you’re gonna have a bad time. Maybe the space itself should opt out.

Maybe it shouldn’t be on every individual user to identify the broken stairs.

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM

2 points

27 days ago

You’re seeing the rules of of necessity of running a comm on the internet and purposefully stretch what public means to argue nobody is allowed to curate their comms unless they’re invisible. It’s an inane take.

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0 points

27 days ago

They can erase every last comment they get, if that’s how they want to spend their time. They are free to create problems for themselves. But if they’re burned-out as a result of mercilessly nitpicking even the folks who already agree with them, what on Earth could solve that, besides changing what they’re doing?

If you create a list of rules that almost nobody expects or enjoys, your target audience is: almost nobody.

Niche communities can thrive in a wide-open space if they’re easy to ignore. Weird fetishes, small countries, that kind of thing. The Cypriots are not “constantly brigaded.” But that would change if every third post went “Cyprus is the only good country, everyone else sucks,” and all disagreement was censored. However justified they feel in that message or that curation, the result is entirely predictable… and therefore, avoidable.

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