A new messaging app is in development, and the project is described as “an open source WhatsApp for the Fediverse.”

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IRC is only “outdated” if you make it so by using outdated networks like libera.chat that refuse to implement the newer standards that have been available for years.

Oh and XMPP is a thing and works great.

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For some weird reason many people just plain ignore the existance of XMPP when they’re discussing decentralized protocols. Is it because Matrix outshadowed it?

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There is this wierd meme that IRC is “outdated” and XMPP is “dead”, both of which is completely untrue, but somehow the tech-bro hivemind continues to spout this nonsense when ever the topic comes up.

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AFAIK the most complained about thing with xmpp is that there are so many standards and every server isn’t guaranteed to implement them. That and just being old which is no curse but people take that as a negative sometimes.

It’s honestly pretty good IMO.

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Thank you, Ive seen this repeatedly and now Ive been better informed.

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Feels like Jabber has been around for a long time. If I’m not mistaken I remember my buddy pimping it as an AIM alternative back in the Napster/mp3 days.

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XMPP is fantastic, but I feel as though it suffers from half-baked clients, most of which are a decade old and look the part.

I’d really love to see a “modern” WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven’t found any. Admittedly, I haven’t looked in some time.

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Give it another look. The popular Android client Conversations is getting an UI overhaul right now (unreleased), Monal for iOS has also improved a lot, and this is a promising looking take on a Telegram like UI: https://moxxy.org/

Dino and Gajim also improved a lot on the desktop side. Overall there is some renewed interest by client developers and the Jabber federation is growing again I think.

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That’s really great news! I’ll look into those. 😁

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@deadsuperhero
> I’d really love to see a “modern” WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven’t found any

Have you looked at @snikket_im ?

@poVoq @lps

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@deadsuperhero
I agree, I use xmpp all the time, but the clients are really underwhelming… Not sure how it’s so complicated to give them a facelift to update them while keeping the existing functionality. This reminds me of the debates about the #blender ui in the past, where gray beards argued that the interface was just fine…aesthetics matter;)
@poVoq

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Same with K9. But they did finally a really good facelift.

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