I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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Strawman?

6.27 Million more people voted for Biden in 2020 than Harris in 2024. That’s not strawmanning, those fuckers stayed home and that is exactly why we are in the current situation.

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Cool. Neither party was palatable for a huge amount of people, wonder why.

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If I’m offered a plate of tomatoes, which I hate, and a pile of shit as choices to eat, both are not palatable to me. But that doesn’t make them the same.

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Yes but if the person handing you the tomatoes had been handing you tomatoes your entire life while promising chocolate cake you’d be a lot less happy about it. Especially if they also said “We’re not going to change anything and if you have a problem with tomatoes you need to take Econ 203 to understand why you’re wrong for being upset.”

Democrats need to get people enthusiastic to vote. Not getting shit on a plate is not enough to get people to vote.

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I voted. But for a lot of people it was like this,

You hear about a restaurant that only serves shit and tomatoes. So you don’t go. I understand that that isn’t really how that works but that is how so many felt about this.

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Let’s say you’re completely right. How does insulting people’s poor choices 4 months ago help us in the present? We can’t create resistance and solidarity if we hold grievances from the past.

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Because some people, mostly just tankies and anarchists pretending to be moral abstainers, are unapologetic about helping elect fascism. By exposing and shaming them, onlookers will reconsider their own stance.

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There are actual Nazis in this administration, and you’re worried about “tankies?” Get it together man.

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Maybe if some of them would accept responsibility, it would go a long way towards creating that resistance.

I’d actually have a lot of respect for someone someone that could admit they made a huge mistake, because it means they are self aware enough to know that their own behavior has consequences also.

And I can get behind people humble enough to own their mistakes.

But most of these people have the gall to blame people who voted for Harris, or blame Harris herself for not being perfect in every way.

So unless they find some humility, there won’t be any solidarity and I would even go so far as to urge others to refuse to find solidarity with anyone that does not have enough strength of character to own their mistakes.

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Guess we should give up then, since things didn’t go our way. Right?

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