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That’s the part I never understood. Even if you weren’t a Musk fan boy and before Musk showed his true colors, Telsa has always, ALWAYS been shit quality. I remember back in 2015, or so, there was a video of someone finally getting their Telsa and it had a massive crack running the length of the driver side A-pillar, yet they just ignored it.

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24 points

I’ll have to be honest and admit back when I was in high school or so, I was enthusiastic about electric cars and his seemed like some of the best. He was also opening up the charging standards so that there could be a mixed playing field. Back then, I was likely ready to dismiss small critiques as the retaliation of the fossil fuel industry.

God I hate old me.

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All your reasons were valid though. Teslas were the best electric cars for a long time, probably not so anymore. Tesla as a brand has done good things, like you say opening up their charging standard which is superior to all the other competitors.

Personally, I wouldn’t get a Tesla because they are sort of like the apple of car companies, e.g. anti-consumer and anti-repair. Plus, Musk owning it is another big negative.

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9 points

Just like model ts were the best for a long time because they were the only ones.

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2 points

tesla just had good marketing, while thier TESLAS have been lacking QC for quite a while.

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17 points

You’re always supposed to hate or be embarrassed by the old you; that means you learned. It means growth. It’s a good thing.

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10 points

Take it from an old man, at a certain point you will grow beyond having to feel “embarassed” by your former self, because your ego won’t be tied to it.

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10 points

Tesla was a long way ahead of the competition for a very long time, to the point where they were the only option for a vehicle that was genuinely a replacement for a combustion vehicle.

Without them, I very much doubt EV market share would be anywhere near what it is today.

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3 points

I’m not sure how it even managed to get so big when the EV1 was so beloved but supposedly killed by the automotive industry.

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Don’t know about that. Leaf has been pretty important as well.

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14 points

Tesla is basically a case study in top down engineering. Radical ideas promised by marketing, sometimes good and sometimes bad, executed in a massive fucking rush which results in tons of build quality and general delivering on promises issues.

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It was more to do with hubris. Scaling up production of anything as complex as a car is going to result in quality issues unless your production engineers are world-class. Tesla thought they were smarter than the carmakers, and learned early in the process that that was bullshit. Then Musk came in and relied on hype rather than engineering to move units.

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Which only worked at first because they were a start up. At that point many people will accept the early adopter woes, but Tesla never quite matured out of it.

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yep. They rested on their laurels, thinking their success of being first would always be success.

and now the big automakers have their own electric cars, that are properly built, and damn cheap compared to tesla prices.

and the first tesla musk had any design input on was the cybertruck, which is nothing more than the fever dream of an edgy emotionally stunted 13 year old, and built to about the same quality as you would expect from one

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2 points

The Roadsters were well-made. That was when production volumes were low and Musk hadn’t bought the company yet.

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If you were an EV early adopter, Tesla is the only brand that delivered the range.

So, they were the only game in town for a lot of buyers.

Not nearly as big a problem now. Tesla has real competition which is why sales are crashing.

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