I am not american and I dont want to be one. The feed for animals raised for their meat in the EU and a lot of other countries that have industrial animal farms is comprised out of several plants and nutrient supplements, and a big part of that feed is soy and corn, both things that are grown mostly to feed animals.

You’ll have to ask the people who started calling them milks hundreds of years ago.

They have a lot more in common with dairy milk than they do juice. And they’re also commonly used as dairy milk alternatives. Plant milk is a much better descriptor even if juice might be more “accurate”.

I do it to piss off dairy farmers specifically. They hate it that I get to call it plant milk and that’s really funny to me.

Natural is such a stupid argument. Is it natural for us to use a smartphone? Sit in a car and drive around? Work 8h a day instead of being with your peer group? Breed a fast growing special kind of animal, feed it with chemical ingredients and plants that don’t grow here only to eat them? Eat processed sugar? I think you get where I am going. Stop using this bullshit argument and take some supplements, your body will thank you.

nature intended

Nature doesn’t intend anything, it simply is. We are, in the grand scheme of things, not separate from nature, and in this sense everything we do is natural. If you’re using “natural” to distinguish things from the results of human civilization, then eating animal products stemming from animal agriculture is just as “unnatural” as supplements, as both are products of civilization.

Are you a nudist?

Animals don’t have the options we do. That argument fails.

Plus, that argument could be used to justify rape and murder. Perfectly natural. They don’t breed humanely.

Why is it worse to get things from less natural sources? Ignoring that everybody get some of their vitamins from less natural sources, e.g. animals injected with B12, cereals fortified with iron, water and toothpaste with fluoride, synthesised morphines instead of smoking opium - would you say these things are bad too because they are less natural? And if so, why?

Also, do you take all of your moral code from the worst things animals do? I hold myself to a higher standard and don’t eat my kids, rape, or fling shit at each others.

Those factory farmed animals are further away from “natural” than a smartphone

Guy says “whatabout” and goes on to bring up something else to compare, and you’re saying it’s not a whatabout?

ROFL!

Yes you don’t want to just eat plants, hence you are eating animals for taste pleasure.

Why do you think it’s okay to kill someone for pleasure? What’s humane about that?

Or you can just eat plants that you can actually digest but that wouldn’t make for a snarky comment huh?

Sorry, I can’t stomach grass without some mayo or tomato sauce.

That is just a non sequitur.