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If the charity itself is doing proper work, that makes sense tbh. I mean, if you had billions to donate, would you give it to some random ass organisation… Or set up your own thing to do things that you personally agree with?

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If the charity itself is doing proper work

I would be utterly shocked if it was.

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im sure its doing something like ‘raising awareness’ like all those breast cancer charities do where none of the money goes to actually helping people with breast cancer and straight into some ceo’s pocket that makes 300k a year

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You’ll know when these billionaire charity trusts actually have an impact because they will do everything in their power to scream it in your ear.

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I’d you want to see how it’s done, check out what his Ex-wife did with her money from the divorce

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/15/mackenzie-scott-billionaire-donations-non-profits

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It’s not a charity. It’s a way to stay in control of all of your money and not pay taxes on it. You pay yourself and your children salaries from it. You have it contract with your profitable businesses. You get to use that money to decide what the world’s ideology is. You get to use it to own a segment of science itself by being where researchers need to go if they want funding. That’s what Bill Gates did with public education the last 10 years. This is how NGOs that go on to hire death squads in South America are created. And in the meantime you spend a few decimal points on a press blitz to make yourself look like a saint.

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All the while Amazon keeps using the streets we pay for, the USPS we pay for, the GPS we pay for, and on and on. That money should be taxed and returned to us and we should get to decide what it’s for.

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Agreed, and I’m find with the tax deduction if the charity works they do is legit, it’s not like he is paying taxes anyway.

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That’s… actually a good point.

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Yeah and if he donates a majority of his wealth, thats more than he would have been taxed regardless.

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If the charity itself is doing proper work

Bill Gates spends his charity money lobbying for privatized education and Eugenics programs.

Also paying hush money to Jeffery Epstein.

So…

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Though I don’t have all day to devote to determining if these sources line up with your claims and if they’re worth a darn but I did attempt to skim.

Number 1. I dropped my subscription so I can’t view the article. Can you share?

Source 2. “The Saviorism of Melinda Gates: Eugenics, Philanthrocapitalism, and the Perils of ‘Western’ Feminisms” . This is a senior honors thesis with some pretty big claims and I’m not sure the paper presents a strong enough argument.

Mind you, Eugenics is evil dog shit steeped in racism, classism and so on. Fuck that shit.

Anyway, the author attempts to draw a line between making birth control / family planning available (to third world countries) and eugenics via population control of certain groups.

Their argument traces a very long and winding path of rather tenuous links along the way and I don’t find it very convincing. It seems more like a student grasping for straws to write a paper.

They seem to be suggesting that forced sterilization, forced sexual segregation, and similar despicable things are equivalent to ultimately voluntary family planning.

I see the point. If these programs are intended to control certain populations at a national level driven by eugenics, yeah that’s fucked.

They may have shown it is plausible that this is what the Gates Foundation has been doing but I don’t think they successfully proved it.

Source 3. Hush money… “Jeffrey Epstein allegedly tried to extort Bill Gates over extramarital affair” … yeah that’s not awesome.

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Sir, this is not your Facebook conspiracy theory group.

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Honestly, I’d go for the middle option: donate to existing charities that appeal to me. I don’t want to run a charity, it sounds like a massive headache.

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You’re probably a different demographic. I’d guess the kind of people that become billionaires, assuming they actually want to be philanthropic, think that they can do a better job of managing their charities than existing charities would do managing their donations.

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If the charity itself is doing proper work

And if the charity is donating to other charities that donate to it as part of a money laundering/tax fraud scheme, what would you say?

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i would definitely do the latter but that is not whats happening here

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Because of course they do. Thanks for the additional info!

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And there it is…

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Also irs

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I mean if you donate billions you kinda don’t want someone do a extit scam or it going to some very sketchy places… Tax reduction is a point but pretty far down the list.

And even if its for tax purposes, the money is then tied to certain purposes and will definitely do more good than as regular taxes. (and its way more than regular taxes)

Man i hate that guy but this bashing isn’t justified.

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I wasn’t bashing him, just providing additional information as the headline is makes him sound like an altruistic hero “uniting humanity”. He isn’t. He will benefit from this in one way or another or else he wouldn’t do it.

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