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14 points

So disappointing that the government spent hundreds of millions of dollars on this referendum only for the majority of people to vote no (well if the ABC have called it right). I’m interested in seeing what the government does next.

Why the fuck do mining companies get a voice in parliament but the oldest living culture in Australia does not?!

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Because giving voice to mining companies is oligarchy and giving special treatment to any race is racism. Both disgusting but first one much less.

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Sorry man, but that’s not racism. That’s equity. Some kinds of people need certain kinds of privileges, because they’ve been disenfranchised by a racist system for years and years and years. Giving them a leg up is a reasonable and empathetic thing to do.

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“Giving some race a privilege” is definition of racism. As long as we continue to mention race in any contents it is racism. We are australian and all australian should be treated equally. Yes they need help but not because their race but because they need help. Just ask yourself why do you consider chinese descendants are second class citizens? They are second members of second oldest cultural tradition in this country.

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It was never about race. It was about recognising that there are two competing forms of sovereignty in this nation, and that it is within everyone’s best interests to find a way of reconciling them. Indigenous Australians are not just another racial group in competition with the rest of us.

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5 points

I think if they passed the legislation first as a trial and then if it went well put it through a referendum there would be more support.

I’m not saying he would but he could just force it through legislation now, with the greens support and independents support, Pocock is in ACT who was the only place to vote yes, I think they have enough to pass.

Sure it will go against the results of the referendum, or “the will of the people” but it will be a legal way to do it. I think if it went through legislation it would become like GST, deeply unpopular at the time but it just becomes fait accompli and noone would dare reverse it. Because once in noone wants the optics of being “the racist in the parliament” besides maybe ONP.

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Legislation first would have been the winner for the Yes campaign. Their weakness was in the lack of detail. As soon as they launched “If you don’t know, vote No” It was sunk.

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I think if it went through legislation it would become like GST, deeply unpopular at the time but it just becomes fait accompli and noone would dare reverse it.

Legislated Indigenous advisory bodies have been dismantled on 11 occasions already.

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And with how vague the voice constitutional change was, it would be able to be dismantled in every meaningful way another 11 times in the future. It would just have to exist, but it could have been comprised of a 19 year old white intern who supported anti-indigenous things.

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13 points

The money was actually well spent because the will of Australian electors was ratified. It’s a snarky point yes, but one worth making.

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