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“Permissible”? Not according to international law, but if your adversaries completely ignore the law and receive no punishment for doing so, why should you continue to follow it? (Worth noting that Russia kept NordStream open despite the sanctions because they wanted to honour contracts with European countries, despite the latter’s hostility)

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Okay. Using that logic, if Russia completely ignores the law by invading neighboring countries, tampering in our elections, and assassinating residents of our countries, why should we continue to be bound by law in how we deal with them?

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You chuds are the ones constantly bleating about the rules based order, yet you never follow the rules you preach. Literally everything you moan about in your comment is something that the burger empire constantly does around the world. So, the question is why should other countries respect your rules while you prance around and play world police.

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I don’t completely disagree with that. A lot of US foreign policy is the same type of naked exercise of lawless power that’s all of a sudden a big emergency when someone else does it to our guys, yes.

That said, I wasn’t the one who started “bleating about the rules” in this instance. My whole point was, it’s a little weird to start shooting, bombing, and raping your neighbors, run away with whatever property you happen to have inside your borders, and then say the West “stole” the frozen sanction-money, when you can still up until the present day have it back any time you stop breaking international law in a big hundreds-of-thousands-of-dead-people way.

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if Russia completely ignores the law by invading neighboring countries

Are you seriously arguing about another country breaking laws as a resident of the US? Even if we just limit it to this conflict, planning and funding a fascist coup in Ukraine in 2014 was a blatant violation of international law

tampering in our elections, and assassinating residents of our countries

Citations needed; specifically, citations containing some kind of evidence, not just anecdotes

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