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I’m seriously thinking of trying Linux when Windows 11 is forced. My computer has the specs to run it, but I’m just tired of Windows and Microsoft.

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Unless you run some really niche software or are a heavy gamer, you’ll likely have no problems and enjoy it. Most software that you need for daily use has a FOSS equivalent that’s equal or better. Usually those are also available straight from the package manager (if not there, then most likely Flatpak).

Just stick with a well supported distro like Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, or PopOS, and it’ll be super easy.

I’m actually looking forward to the perfectly good Linux boxes that are bound to be popping up at yard sales or on ebay once that happens.

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51 points

a heavy gamer

Why I am still hesitant to make the leap. Not just do I mostly use my PC for gaming but I have a tendency to jump into a new game for like 3 weeks and then off to the next like the horrid ADHD having fuck that I am. I don’t want to possibly have to work to make a game work each and every time. I know its gotten a lot better about that but still. Convivence has me trapped yo.

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55 points

I was in the same boat. But Valve seriously made it easy to install and play games on Steam. If you have a spare drive, give it a shot.

Things I had to do were to turn on proton in the steam settings and installing vulkan drivers for my AMD card.

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23 points

I don’t want to possibly have to work to make a game work each and every time.

as long as it’s not a competitive multiplayer, it’s more likely than not that it’ll work out of the box.

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12 points

Check ProtonDB. The overwhelming majority of games work just fine on Linux with Steam’s Proton. I encounter a game that genuinely will not work on Linux only like once or twice a year.

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10 points

You’re attacking this from the wrong angle. Tinkering every few weeks with something new on linux can keep your ADHD occupied ;-)

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As an intermedia Linux user prior to making the jump 2 years ago, if you mainly game on Steam you’re fine. Wine and Proton are mature developed now that most games ‘just work’. Almost all the problems I’ve run into for gaming on Linux have come from trying to do something outside steam (although Blizzard and Activision games seem to be pretty low effort).

Once you get outside that, it’s hit or miss (sometimes good hits. Sometimes bad misses).

What you’ll have to say goodbye to is alphas, betas, and release weekends. They CAN function (I did all 3 Diablo 4 beta weekends last year with no issues at all), and there’s plenty of early access stuff on steam that works fine even though the developers didn’t care about Linux one bit. But usually if you’re reporting issues on opening weekend for a new game, they’re more concerned with making their game launch work for the 95%+ of users instead of the 5%. If you want stuff to ‘just work’ and don’t want to spend your weekend tinkering with waiting for hot fixes or patches, you’ll probably not want to make the switch. Or will want to change your mentality about which games you play and when.

That being said, the experience is constantly getting better. So in a year or two it may be a different story.

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6 points

I run Pop!_Os. Steam with Proton is a gamechanger. Yet to find a game that doesn’t just work with zero configuration.

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5 points

Try dual booting so you can test if it just works or if the friction involved is acceptable.

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5 points

There has been a LOT of progress since the SteamDeck launched. The only real barrier now is multiplayer games that run anticheat. And even some of those have been figured out.

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Only thing I’ve found to really not work is head tracking. That’s pretty niche though and I’m expecting someone to figure that out eventually. Almost every game ran no problem.

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Actually with ADHD it’s nice. Making something work under Wine (following the instructions from winehq.org) is a bit similar to a game itself

EDIT: Oh, there’s another such comment.

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If you have a spare drive, install Pop_OS! on it. Don’t let people let you think that everything is a piece of cake. It can be a little frustrating. A lot of guides jump to “the rest of the fucking owl” or are made on older versions of software. Steam does make it easy but most games are not a matter of simply hitting install because they do not have a native Linux version. You have to right-click on the game, go to Manage, and then set compatibility to Proton (generally although some games need other settings added which you can often find in protondb.com). Is it worth? I like it. There are some basic things that can be annoying like my fingerprint reader not working even though fprintd supports it but I’m too lazy to make a bug report.

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but I have a tendency to jump into a new game for like 3 weeks and then off to the next like the horrid ADHD having fuck that I am

That’s basically why I stopped gaming. Have saved so much money from not filling up my Steam library with games I’ll never finish. lol

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Try dual boot. Ideally install both OSs on separate drives and do windows first. Best of luck!

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2 points

I just dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 11 on my laptop. W11 for gaming, Ubuntu for everything else.

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I think you should try it yourself, see if you like it. Who knows, perhaps it’s not actually as troublesome as you think. You can always reinstall windows again anytime you want.

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I also have ADHD and concerns that my 40p game library would be an issue

I’ll report back on this comment when I find a game that doesn’t just work with Proton, cuz I haven’t tried one yet that didn’t (admittedly I haven’t tried a kernel level anti cheat game)

Even FFXIV, an MMO, works and installed reshade with no issue

Literally the only issue I had installing Linux Mint was my sound card refusing to output sound even though the OS could see it. Every other jack worked, just not my sound card. Fixed it by plugging my phones into a different DAC lol, and the other jacks were fine anyway so it was NBD to begin with

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No worries. Grab one of these going to a landfill and try it out - its all free!

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People still have sound issues with gaming on Linux.

It’s tremendously better, but it’s not guaranteed.

Even in this very thread people are to make certain gaming features work in Linux.

That speaks volumes.

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28 points

I suggest Mint for new users (and lazy old users like me). All of the simplicity of Ubuntu, without Canonical’s shit

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8 points

I almost went back to Mint on my last rebuild, but ended up going with Debian + Cinnamon. So far so good.

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3 points

Ubuntu without snaps or nagging about Ubuntu Pro. I was annoyed with both so I switched over from Ubuntu Mate to Linux Mate and have been enjoying it.

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2 points

What about Arch? I was told:

mint is garbage. The only thing easier about mint or any of those “noob friendly” distros is the initial install

any time you want to do anything outside of its strict little ecosystem it becomes a massive headache

arch’s wiki is unparalleled

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Even heavy gamers are getting a much better experience on Linux these days (yay Proton!). There are a couple of anti-cheat systems that are still trouble some, but honestly if the developers don’t want to to put in the much smaller amount of effort to make it work on Linux, I don’t want to give them my money.

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9 points

Sadly I have niche software and I’m a heavy gamer. But now it’s becoming as much of a headache to deal with Windows threatening dumb upgrades that I might as well switch and fight with compatibility.

The more we do it, the more companies will be incentivised to make Linux work.

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6 points

I’m kind of a power user.

Gaming. Multimedia (Video, Image, Audio). Application development. Web development. Getting into cybersecurity, so using a lot of VMs. Watching videos.

I’ve been making a Linux transition. So far, the stuff I still need to iron out:

-Adobe. Make it work somehow or replace. Can use it on a windows VM 🤷‍♂️. Happy to replace because fuck em. Working through options.

-VST managers for digital audio workstation. Most aren’t on Linux (spitfire audio, iZotope, IK multimedia, iLok). Haven’t begun trying to make them work. I e heard most can be configured in WINE.

-old MIDI program not working. No audio for MIDI. One program works, another doesn’t 🤔

That’s it. Everything else is working. Big challenges Ive had:

-bluetooth gaming controller took a lot of effort. Works great now.

-Epic games through heroic… Through steam on Linux… Through remote play on my phone… That was difficult. But it works!!

-remote desktop troubleshooting. Works fine now.

Oh and I can’t get windows subsystem for Linux to work in my windows VM on my Linux machine. 🤷‍♂️

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windows subsystem for Linux to work in my windows VM on my Linux machine.

Ignoring the blasphemy of that, the fact it doesn’t work may prove that we are, indeed, living in a simulated universe. lol

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Oh and I can’t get windows subsystem for Linux to work in my windows VM on my Linux machine.

You need nested virtualization since it’s a VM within a VM. It’s supported by KVM/libvirt but may need additional config. I believe virtualbox now supports it too, but that it’s a bit undercooked.

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4 points

My Win10 machine is an audio workstation (DAW) so I am curious how the migration to Linux will work out. Reaper has a Linux port so that should be OK. Hopefully all the VSTs will still work and I’ll have to check on my Focusrite Scarlett. I am not buying a new machine just to run this stuff as it’s just a hobby.

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4 points

I haven’t powered it up in several years, but I keep an old Windows XP machine with my DAW software on it. I just always ran it offline and moved files with a thumb drive. That said, I never did try a native Linux solution.

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2 points

Check out Bitwig Studio too if you haven’t already. It can even open Ableton and FL project files.

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2 points

Niche hardware meaning an asus laptop

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Eh, my last Asus ran Linux fine. Though until Ubuntu 18.04 came out, I had to patch the i2c driver and recompile the kernel in order to make the touchpad work lol.

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Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, or PopOS

What about Arch? I was told:

mint is garbage. The only thing easier about mint or any of those “noob friendly” distros is the initial install

any time you want to do anything outside of its strict little ecosystem it becomes a massive headache

arch’s wiki is unparalleled

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4 points

Arch is cool until it isn’t. If an update breaks your system, then you better know how to fix that by yourself, because the wiki is definitely not the holy grail that some people make it out to be and the community can be toxic as hell. Also, Mint is based on Ubuntu so I would not call that a “little” ecosystem. In the end, each distro has its pros and cons and you have to weight & figure out what fits best for you and your personal needs.

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4 points

Arch wiki is a useful resource, even for users of other distros. But seriously, do not use Arch Linux unless you’re an experienced Linux user. I have no idea why so many Arch users recommend their distro to new Linux users. Even the Arch wiki tells you it’s not a distro for beginners:

It is targeted at the proficient GNU/Linux user, or anyone with a do-it-yourself attitude who is willing to read the documentation, and solve their own problems.

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Hahaha, right, right.

Most users would get lost on a Linux box, even with the truly great user-friendly distros today. I use a few for testing and things like LXC, and it’s still frustrating at times - and I started with UNIX 35 years ago.

You’re seriously over estimating the capability of most users.

People can’t find controls in Windows when I guide them.

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24 points

I’m seriously thinking of trying Linux when Windows 11 is forced.

Sorry for the uncalled advice, but if you’re considering it, you might as well try it now. Specially in ways that don’t limit your access to Windows, such as live USB and dual boot (Windows and Linux in the same machine, at the same time). So if you do decide “I’m ditching Windows”, in the future, you’ll have an easier time doing so.

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Yup. Don’t wait until the W11 upgrade is imminent. Start it now, so you have a year of experience under your belt and can help your friends switch too when they’re forced to upgrade.

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8 points

Pretty much all computers have the specs to run linux. Of some flavor.

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8 points

The only thing stopping me from switching over to Mint is procrastination.

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4 points

The hardest thing about Linux Mint is installing all of your software. It’s daunting even for very established users.

I moved from Ubuntu to LM a few months ago and I’ve enjoyed it.

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6 points

Do yourself a favor and do it now. Maybe then you’ll be able to help others move to Linux who haven’t done so before.

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5 points

I have switched a dell laptop that windows 10 didn’t support to pop os. (It was 7 years old) My whole family has used it for a few years to do everything without any issues. Ironically I have had problems with the Pop OS install on my newer more powerful machine.

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Yeah I’m not as much of a fan of PopOS as I thought I’d be. I have it on my daily driver laptop, and every system update seems to introduce some wacky bug/glitch or another. Nothing major, just random small annoyances that usually get fixed in the next update.

It dual boots Pop and Debian, and Debian performs flawlessly. It’s a Thinkpad, so Linux support has always been fantastic. I’m thinking of just dropping the PopOS partition and going back to my original love, Debian.

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5 points

Then don’t hesitate! You could easily install both side by side, in case you need some Windows exclusive software.

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3 points

… Linux can run on a potato.

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There are multiple distros with live-cd (or usb drive) where you can boot to a desktop environment without installing anything if you want to try them.

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Start trying Linux now using WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux). It’s a great way to dip your toe in the water, and your computer can run it today.

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Or you could try Tiny11, which is basically Windows 11 but much less Microsofty 😉

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