No, I’m gonna thank the people who attacked an Iranian embassy. Fucking zionists and genocide apologists really love to jump at the chance to blame Hamas for everything, especially Israel’s own fuckups, huh.
Hamas could stop the invasion of Gaza at any time by releasing the hostages and disarming. Instead the Hamas leadership are big chillin in Qatar living the good life escalating the violence every chance they get.
If Hamas hadn’t attacked Israel on October 7th, Hezbollah wouldn’t have ramped up rocket attacks on Israel in response to the Gaza invasion. Then Israel wouldn’t have needed to target the Iranian general helping to fund and coordinate the attacks from Syria.
The middle east is a giant cluster fuck of bad actors being funded by Iran in an effort to destabilize the west and eradicate Israel. The west defends Israel because if they didn’t then the surrounding Arab states would absolutely destroy the country of Israel and do their best to enact a second Holocaust of any Jewish people they could get their hands on.
There are no “good guys” in any of these conflicts, especially not Hamas or Iran. Because of Israel, Hamas, and Iran the Gaza civilians are being punished.
Don’t say any stupid shit like I’m a Zionist or genocide apologists just because I understand that Hamas doesn’t really give a fuck about Palestinian civilians.
Hamas could stop the invasion of Gaza at any time by releasing the hostages and disarming. Instead the Hamas leadership are big chillin in Qatar living the good life escalating the violence every chance they get.
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you haven’t heard Netanyahu repeatedly say the hostages aren’t the end of it? That they have to destroy Hamas too? And that’s a pretty glib statement for the guys currently standing on the wrong side of the border.
Just like the Russians saying Ukraine can end the war at any time with total surrender. Just let them win and do whatever they want then it will totally be over, we swear! There’s no way they will continue to kill civilians, occupy land that isn’t theirs, and bring in more settlers. /s
The oppressors would love it if any resistance just went away.
I understand that Hamas doesn’t really give a fuck about Palestinian civilians
Then it would be ridiculous to expect Hamas to change tactics for the sake of Palestinians…
Hamas could stop the invasion of Gaza at any time by releasing the hostages and disarming.
And Hamas will do all that as soon as they start caring for Palestinians? They literally have nothing to loose at this point.
Ok, sure Hamas attacked, kidnapped and killed civilians, with 1200+ killed and another 5000+ injured.
Israel retaliated by killing 13,000+ kids and 8,000+ women, with 33,000+ killed since then.
I’d say that’s a disproportionate response.
Remember, those numbers are from around 3-4 weeks ago. There isn’t any mechanism for continuing the count, which is why the number hasn’t changed as starvation kicks in.
You’re forgetting something. 30% of those numbers from October 7th are Israeli military. And yeah it was bad that they killed so many civilians. But this number gets thrown around like they were on an unopposed rampage. Then there’s the fact that Israelis near Palestinian borders tend to be well armed and a picture of an actual fight begins to emerge.
Most of the Israelis who live near Gaza are peace activists and environmental activists who live there to help build peaceful relations with Palestine.
a little guy attacking a big guy needs to expect a big response. it’s moronic to believe anything else
The guerilla doesn’t need to win, just not lose. The correct response if you actually want to end the fighting is to attack the Idea. Which turns out to be a careful balancing act of of fighting radicals while respecting and helping the local population.
This is… Not that.
Proportional response would have been to storm gaza and rape, torture and murder 1200+ palestinians - mostly civilians.
That’s not what proportional warfare means.
It has nothing to do with the numbers being proportional on two sides. It’s whether the military response is proportional to the military goal. The military goal in this case is the defeat of an embedded terrorist organization and return of hostages.
By that definition Israel is failing to meet its military goal. Killing SO MANY innocent civilians would be considered a military failure by any other western county.
Unless the goal is collective punishment and not proportional warfare.
The people that told you that are mentally insane, so you know. I know it feels good to have a rationalisation and that they seem reasonable. but they are emotionally immature men that have traumas preventing them from growing up correctly and now they are in a psychosis.
No, nothing about any one killing anyone is about a military target goal. It’s not justified to do these things. Just like it was and is not justified by the terrorists to do them. Stop being a fool really that thinks this is normal to do, to slay an entire people. What the fuck man.
This is a war. What makes you think war is supposed to be proportionate?
How many American civilians were killed at Pearl Harbor? There were 68.
How many Japanese civilians were subsequently killed by Americans? About 500,000.
Americans weren’t obligated to stop when Japanese civilian casualties outnumbered American civilian casualties. They were only obligated to stop when Japan surrendered.
Who’s supposed to surrender? Theres no government, it’s not a war, it’s a massacre.
A “war” as you’re mentioning it is very different than what’s happening here.
Sure, in a total war, massive nation state war , if one side blunders and gets a whole army, or a whole city obliterated, that’s just war. (I’m not condoning or calling for total war, anywhere. Just explaining a difference)
This is absolutely not that.
Ah yes, Israel is just doing what the US did in Japan, Korea, and Vietnam. Very apt comparison.
Also the US killed way more that 500,000 Japanese civilians in WWII. Your just counting the atom bombs. We had leveled multiple cities with conventional and fire bombs before that.
Hamas did not bomb an embassy on foreign soil. Hamas has not been committing war crimes for the last 6 months.
Israel did bomb an embassy on foreign soil. Israel has been committing war crimes for the last 6 months.
Blindly shooting rockets at the civilian population in Israel for years, raping and murdering civilians on october 7th and using their own civilian population as human shields are few that come to mind.
IDF drops bombs on the homes of any man, killing entire families at once. “Human shields” do not exist, there is no point. The IDF has shown they will happily shoot through the civilians anyways.
Okay, well Israel glassed half the strip and killed 33,000 people. They went past self defense or even basic revenge about 32,000 people ago. Any other half-assed attempt to justify a genocide?
Fuck Hamas. But fuck Israel also. They’re not crazy idiotic islam nuts. They simply used what those islamist fuckers did to start genocide of innocent people. Fuck Netanyahu, fuck whole state if Israel. They got down to nazi level.
