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There is no way that murdering top Iranian officials in an Iranian embassy on Syrian soil was ever going to be anything but a gauntlet thrown down. If it was almost any other country than Israel the world would be outraged. Countries like the USA and Germany didn’t pull support because of things like destroying hospitals and killing innocents, so bombing the embassy of a country as reviled as Iran inside Syria wasn’t going to stop them.

Netanyahu knows his days in power are done very shortly after Israel leaves a condition of all-out war. Biden has told him that, his polls tell him that, and protestors tell him that. I think he’s poking the local bears to escalate and stay in power by extending the conflict. Both Biden and Trump have promised support so Netanyahu is acting with the backing of the world’s largest military no matter who wins. Pulling the USA and other Western countries into another war in the Middle East is his best bet of pushing that day of reckoning way down the road.

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This was a completely blatant provocation in order to move the theater to Iran and keep the war footing going. If Iran were smart, they’d make a quick foray to quiet home pressure then just pull back and let Bibi wind down and face his corruption trial if he gets forced out of leveling Gaza because of international condemnation.

Israel, you can do better than this prick. Get your shit together or you’re going to get left to your own devices and the rest of the world will just come in and pick up the pieces afterwards.

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Iran claims the matter is concluded assuming Israel doesn’t strike back in retaliation of their retaliation.

Of course Isreal is going to continue the matter though, they’re the one that started it by attacking the embassy.

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Iran will be dealing with bombs in their borders now.

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*Iranian embassy is technically Iranian soil. Otherwise you’re spot on.

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That’s true.

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He must not have studied South American history too well…

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I must admit my own ignorance about South American parallels, but I’m legitimately interested. I wouldn’t ask you to do my research for me, but do you have a good starting point to recommend?

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11 points

Op didn’t make a point so you can ignore them.

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96 points

Thanks, Israel, for dragging world into a war just because your genocide.
Edit: missing coma

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61 points

No, I’m gonna thank the people who attacked an Iranian embassy. Fucking zionists and genocide apologists really love to jump at the chance to blame Hamas for everything, especially Israel’s own fuckups, huh.

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Hamas could stop the invasion of Gaza at any time by releasing the hostages and disarming. Instead the Hamas leadership are big chillin in Qatar living the good life escalating the violence every chance they get.

If Hamas hadn’t attacked Israel on October 7th, Hezbollah wouldn’t have ramped up rocket attacks on Israel in response to the Gaza invasion. Then Israel wouldn’t have needed to target the Iranian general helping to fund and coordinate the attacks from Syria.

The middle east is a giant cluster fuck of bad actors being funded by Iran in an effort to destabilize the west and eradicate Israel. The west defends Israel because if they didn’t then the surrounding Arab states would absolutely destroy the country of Israel and do their best to enact a second Holocaust of any Jewish people they could get their hands on.

There are no “good guys” in any of these conflicts, especially not Hamas or Iran. Because of Israel, Hamas, and Iran the Gaza civilians are being punished.

Don’t say any stupid shit like I’m a Zionist or genocide apologists just because I understand that Hamas doesn’t really give a fuck about Palestinian civilians.

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Ok, sure Hamas attacked, kidnapped and killed civilians, with 1200+ killed and another 5000+ injured.

Israel retaliated by killing 13,000+ kids and 8,000+ women, with 33,000+ killed since then.

I’d say that’s a disproportionate response.

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Remember, those numbers are from around 3-4 weeks ago. There isn’t any mechanism for continuing the count, which is why the number hasn’t changed as starvation kicks in.

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You’re forgetting something. 30% of those numbers from October 7th are Israeli military. And yeah it was bad that they killed so many civilians. But this number gets thrown around like they were on an unopposed rampage. Then there’s the fact that Israelis near Palestinian borders tend to be well armed and a picture of an actual fight begins to emerge.

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a little guy attacking a big guy needs to expect a big response. it’s moronic to believe anything else

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Proportional response would have been to storm gaza and rape, torture and murder 1200+ palestinians - mostly civilians.

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That’s not what proportional warfare means.

It has nothing to do with the numbers being proportional on two sides. It’s whether the military response is proportional to the military goal. The military goal in this case is the defeat of an embedded terrorist organization and return of hostages.

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This is a war. What makes you think war is supposed to be proportionate?

How many American civilians were killed at Pearl Harbor? There were 68.

How many Japanese civilians were subsequently killed by Americans? About 500,000.

Americans weren’t obligated to stop when Japanese civilian casualties outnumbered American civilian casualties. They were only obligated to stop when Japan surrendered.

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Hamas did not bomb an embassy on foreign soil. Hamas has not been committing war crimes for the last 6 months.

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What?

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Blindly shooting rockets at the civilian population in Israel for years, raping and murdering civilians on october 7th and using their own civilian population as human shields are few that come to mind.

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Hamas has been launching missiles at apartments in Israel, for years.

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Moron. Hamas commit war crimes as a matter of course. How can you be so intellectually dishonest in your arguments?!

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Why, did I disturb your echo chamber?

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16 points

Hamas bombed Iranian embassy?

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Fuck Hamas. But fuck Israel also. They’re not crazy idiotic islam nuts. They simply used what those islamist fuckers did to start genocide of innocent people. Fuck Netanyahu, fuck whole state if Israel. They got down to nazi level.

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Israel are crazy idiotic religious nuts.

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Yes, I think both sides are full of hatred for the other, they have been at de facto war for years, and they both think escalation is a good strategy.

The results are predictable.

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34 points

Nutshell:

  • Iran has launched more than 100 drones toward Israel.
  • The Biden administration expects Iran will also launch dozens of cruise missiles and dozens of ballistic missiles.
  • It will be hours before the drones arrive.
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The Biden administration expects Iran will also launch dozens of cruise missiles and dozens of ballistic missiles targeting Israeli government sites, not civilians or religious sites, a US official said.

TFW Iran is doing war stuff more humanely than Israel has been for the last seven months.

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15 points

That’s a pretty low bar to clear at this point.

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What if Israeli government sites were located inside the homes of Israeli civilians? What if Israeli military sites were located underneath Israeli hospitals? Would that grant Israel immunity against Iran? Because your line of reasoning would be that the only way to prevent war is to put civilians in harms way, as Hamas has done repeatedly.

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What if some people were giving food aid to Israel and they told Iran they were going to give aid…then their aid vans were bombed by Iran anyway?

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Since we’re 'what if’ing, what if we bombed the shit out of every Israeli embassy in every country?

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Holy shit, the thread about this on .ml is absolutely disgusting. Masks are completely off.

And I see all the hexbear .world alts are out in force in this thread as well.

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I never understood why people constantly bring up other instances in threads. Why even mention it? If there’s no external attention on it, then it can be quarantined there

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Thanks for the commentary so we know nobody is normal

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This entire war is a lesson that politicians who promote “security” over peace will end up with a less secure country than what they inherited.

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