Even if you think what you would say is obvious, please add. This is genuinely something I think makes sense regarding local bus routes given the longevity of light rail and how infrequently routes change, but I also suffer from confirmation bias, so I’m hoping for reasons this would be a terrible idea but obviously would prefer reasons it would be an even more amazing idea than I thought.

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Buses for longer journeys make sense. We have a bunch of buses in London that run from the city centre out towards the green belt. Buses for those especially long journeys makes sense.

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Buses are awful for long journeys. Trams for longer journeys make sense. You need the buses to get you to the tram stop.

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Pretty much the point of trams are that they’re in populated areas, are in walking distance, and have many stops. They’re local public transport.

In cities they’re equivalent to buses, and in many countries existing trams where replaced by bus routes starting in the 1960s.

If you need longer and faster transport, metro and light rail are the modes to bring people to and around town.

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Have you actually ever seen the tram network in North Rhine and Westphalia, Germany? Also in many places in the world the replacement of trams by buses has been since seen as a mistake and there are plenty of examples of extensive new trams networks introduced and in planning in cities where they got rid of them in 1960s.

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Our tram is called the Metro, which is light rail. It connects a small city to a bigger city, and loops around the bigger city. The residential zone along it is enormous, well beyond walking distance. Many people need buses to make use of it.

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Could a tram do Trafalgar Square to Leyton Bakers Arms? I feel like it would leave a lot of people without public transport options.

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If you would demolish all the other options, then it would de facto do just that. But nobody has even suggested the kind of baffoonery.

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I have no idea why you’re directing this question at me.

London has the tube. It does not need a tram.

Obviously buses are needed to get people to the tram/tube/train stations.

This thread has precisely fuck all to do with London. London has very good public transport already. It’s everywhere else that is expected to do without.

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Why not just build a train for long journies? Cheaper over time, more capacity, and reduces road dependency.

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We need more tube lines to be fair. But also I want to service as many people as possible.

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