‘The car companies want to put small guy out of business.’

125 points

What car you clickbait bastard?

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2024 Ram 3500, but it’s an industry push from NASTF so probably more will come soon.

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71 points

Fuck these guys. If we live in a car society we need to be able to repair cars.

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22 points

That’s treating people as Humans. But in our capitalist hellscape, we aren’t people, we’re Consumers. We exist to provide money to companies, and they’re ever interested in finding more ways to make us give them money.

It’s not enough that you buy a TV, the manufacturer needs to have ads in it. They need the telemetry on what you watch, when you watch it, and for how long so they can make the ads more relevant. We can’t have you replacing your phone battery, so we’ll make it an internal component so when it goes bad you’re more likely to just get a new phone.

But we can’t pay people more, because that’s an expense.

The line must go up at all costs.

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34 points

I knew before I even clicked in it would be some shitbox by Chrysler.

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I don’t understand how people keep buying rams. They’re just such pieces of shit.

Edit: make that Dodges.

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2 points

Fiat

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The National Automotive Service Task Force (NASTF) is a 501 C6 not-for-profit organization established in 2000 by Automakers and the independent aftermarket to identify and resolve gaps in Service information, Tool Information and Training.

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29 points

I truly feel this man’s righteous anger at my very core.

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1 point

Cuz he bought a Dodge?

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3 points

About many things I am sure

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Chrysler, jeep, dodge, ram, fiat all have a SGW- a secure gateway that doesnt let any un-authorised diagnostic tool to connect to the car and delete faults or do any repairs, you can still see faults but cant do anything more. If you want to do more you have to buy theyr tool for 15000$ and 1000$ a year, or to bypass the SGW and do the repair ilegaly.

Renault, nissan, infiniti all have a SGW that cant be bypassed normaly so you have to pay about 10€ for a 24h connection for one VIN code. There is no free way to connect to these cars.

Mercedes just introduced a new SGW that i dont know anything much but you can pay to bypass it. The price i got was for 800€ for 50 connections.

VW group is working on a new platfrom with Rivian that is sayed to be 100% not bypassible in any means. Onley a dealer would be able to do anything.

BMW is letting connect and do anything but its made harder by locking every part to a VIN so that you cant use used parts. Rumor is that next generation bmw will not be able to use used parts. Some cars dont let you do it now but there are ways to make it work.

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13 points

Looks like I’m gonna run my Mercedes 300D until it literally collapses into a heap. The engine is supposed to be good for a million miles, after that I guess I can change bearing journals, valves and seats, bore it out and do oversize pistons like they did back in the day.

I’m appreciating more and more owning a car that only has an electrical system for the lights and radio

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1 point

In the end you might DIY ebike

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73 points

Even cars are getting enshitified.

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61 points

They were one of the first to go.

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52 points

I’ve been advocating right to repair and have been trying to raise the alarm bells to stuff like this. Unfortunately people have been blind to it and keep putting up with this crap.

“Oh I have to go to the ram dealership instead of an independent and pay $10,000 more? Sounds good to me!”

“Oh they track everywhere I drive, the speed I’m driving and also sell it to my insurance so they can increase rates, and advertisers to stalk me? If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear!”.

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6 points

How do you find energy to keep going? I got too tired and burned out from trying to explain to people why the right to repair is important, but it seems like they already got too used to thinking replacing stuff all the time and tossing them away because of simple things is normal. When I try to talk about it, I am portrayed as the weird one, who thinks we should be using stuff manufactured more than a couple of years ago.

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23 points

Tractors first, John Deere enshitified them and car companies took note!

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16 points

Obligatory 'Fuck John Deere".

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69 points

The companies don’t want you own your car.

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62 points

Companies don’t want us serfs to own anything.

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15 points

you will live in a box made of ticky tacky, you will drive a subscription tank, you will eat a “hamburger” maed out of 40% sawdust, you will spend 10% of your life mowing your lawn, and you will think you like it

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64 points

The reason is more likely that they want to avoid people enabling all the software features they disabled because you didn’t take the super-premium-customer-comfort pack for 15$/month.

How do you expect car manufacturers to survive you anticapitalist swines! /s

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8 points

You can’t really do that with diagnostic tools, but you can change the vehicle mileage. I see a lot of cars coming from shady car lots with under 100k miles that look like they have over 300k on them.

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6 points

Got any examples of this?

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3 points

Like what? It’s all readily available information, you can buy tools to do it off ebay and amazon.

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46 points

Some argued that the new requirements were to protect cars from theft.

Car thieves: Oh noeeees… anyway 🤷

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