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The ballot effort to increase the minimum wage for tipped workers faces a new challenge as opponents seek to disqualify signatures collected by organizers.
The Massachusetts Restaurant Association filed an objection to several signatures and petition sheets submitted to the secretary of state by the ballot campaign group, One Fair Wage. The signatures were the final hurdle for ballot organizers to get the issue in front of voters in November.
Wont someone think of the soft-working executives and their bonus programs?
They do this in every city. Restraunt industry is cancer.
I avoid tipped places as much as i can. Counter serve preferred.
This is why I can never understand why people would pay baristas. It’s counter service, just take your coffee and go. It’s also part of the reason I don’t go to coffee places. Especially when Dunkin’ Donuts’ coffee tastes better than Starbucks.
Starbucks smells like cigarettes.
They also burn the bujesus out of their coffee so it tastes the same everywhere. McDonald’s does the same thing. Like crap. But it’s ok because they’re really just adding a modicum of coffee to effectively a milkshake.
Dunkin kind of expects you to just do cream and sugar, so the coffee has to be better. So it’s decent coffee. Decent coffee isn’t hard. It’s fucking easy. My 15 dollar Mr Coffee makes decent coffee. 2 million bored teenagers around the country are all capable of pouring grounds in to a machine and pressing a button and producing decent coffee.
Starbucks wants to sell you a bunch of other shit with coffee.
My hair stylist (owns her salon) recently implemented a no-gratuities policy. Everyone has to charge whatever they think is fair to make up for there not being a gratuity and clients know exactly how much the job will cost with no pressure to go higher. This is how everything ought to be.
Tipping has lost It’s meaning in the U.S.
I’m gonna reply to this then it’s just gonna ask you a question… Stares off in to space
I was at a concert recently and the merch vendor was asking for a tip. It’s like, I bought a t-shirt, why am I tipping you? Did you make the t-shirt yourself?
There’s an episode of impractical jokers that really stuck with me. They pretended as bellhops at a hotel, they instructed each other to be as rude and unhelpful as possible like hopping on the bed with shoes on to change a light bulb, taking a shower after showing the guests the room, etc. 3 out of 4 guests tipped them.
Turning tipped positions into non-tipped positions will push down wages for those formerly tipped positions.
At least when prices went up, servers got a piece. Now restaurant owners will stagnate wages and pocket the increase.
I don’t think anyone is saying we need to not allow tipping, just stop the stupid idea that restaurants can pay less just because an employee is tipped. They shouldn’t be reliant on the good will of people or the social pressure to tip, that should just be an extra.
I mean, I’m saying that.
To me I’ve never understood why sit-down restaurants should be looked at any differently to any other business. Why can’t the actual price just be listed on the menu?
Like, if we’ve collectively decided that the actual price is 20% higher than what is listed, then let’s just treat this like every other profession and raise prices by 20%.
Why are people taking orders and carrying food special? Other customer-facing positions generally don’t get tips. Chefs (who make the food!) generally don’t get tips.
Just pay the waitstaff a fair wage and quit the tipping!
Are you saying you think tips should be banned? Like if I offered someone a tip and they accept it should they be in trouble? Cause that’s what I mean when I say no one is saying tipping should be not allowed.
It’s not 1995 anymore. Most restaurants require chefs to be tipped out.
Its only the really shitty ones that dont.
A ton of people, in this thread, are saying tipping should be banned/not a thing.
I haven’t seen anyone say it should be banned, just not required because the person isn’t making enough money to live off of just the wage they’re paid. I agree it shouldn’t need to be a thing but it should still be an option if you have extra money and feel generous, it just shouldn’t be expected.
If the goal is to do away with tipping, I don’t know of another way besides banning it that will be effective.
The provinces of Ontario, Alberta and British Columbia all did away with the seperate (lesser) server wage so that all employees go by a universal minimum wage. I don’t think that changed patrons’ tipping habits one bit.
And servers are still reliant on the good will of people. Ain’t nobody with real expenses getting by with some of these minimum wages. Not with the current cost-of-living.
Ok. So what.
If they can fill the positions at that rate then they should be happy. They can increase prices since consumers don’t tip anymore and pocket the difference.
If you are correct, then the owners wouldn’t be fighting this.
Having a burden to pay your staff is just that - a burden.
It doesnt mean that owners wont make more money, its just a bigger pain in the ass than its worth.
You mean like every other company on the face of the planet? Seems to work out just fine.
Guess you’ll just have to live with paying fair wages to your employees. Get fucked.
Restaurant owners will increase prices with inflation because it means more profits. Restaurant owners are also notorious for stealing tips and wage theft.
And restaurants that ended tipping (some have) have happier wait staff and management.
Do you own a restaurant?
Do you have a source on that statement?
I do not own a restaurant but am a worker, bartender specifically.
Every restaurant that i know of or have worked in that switches to a non-tipped wage leads to suppressed/lower wages, and that’s from someone who has intimate access to the books.
Pay is definitely more consistent but not as high on average by design.
Well you can do a shitty version of anything. There are gains to be had switching to a non-tipped pay structure, but its up to the owner to distribute it fairly. Sounds like in your examples the owner collected the extra money themselves.