I was watching “…why Skyrim?” by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it’s so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn’t enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It’s so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn’t made a really good game since 2002, but it’ll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

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Bethesdabros when someone says their favorite bibeo gaem is ass:

Me when someone says my favorite game is ass:

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Fr, like if I got my undies in a bind every time someone said, Idk, Dark Void was bad, I would not sleep.

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51 points

God, dad could drive a silt strider

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It’s amazing how Morrowind was just a breath of fresh air in terms of fantasy settings and writing

Then we get Oblivion, which tossed out everything interesting in lieu of casting Patrick Stewart (for five minutes) and Sean Bean, with even the high points being fairly cookie cutter nonsense that only seemed good because the rest of the game was so bland

Now Skyrim on the other hand, immediately went to Epic Dragon Viking Town, but stripped the game of even more depth and even made the dragons some of the easier enemies in the game

Like, what fucking game designer goes “Dragons should be far and away the most annoying enemy to fight”?

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Then we get Oblivion, which tossed out everything interesting in lieu of casting Patrick Stewart (for five minutes) and Sean Bean, with even the high points being fairly cookie cutter nonsense that only seemed good because the rest of the game was so bland

Didn’t Skyrim get rid of the dynamic npc conversations? That was like a highlight of Oblivion which was a pretty bad game overall.

“Hello!”

“Oh it’s you.”

“Have you heard of the high elves?”

“I saw a mudcrab the other day, horrible creatures!”

“Good bye!”

“Bye.”

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15 points

There’s a nip in the air, cold won’t be good for my crops

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i would say they fixed them. like yeah Oblivion’s are iconic in that janky way, but skyrim crossed the pale into fairly convincing which helps for immersion, but is less funny

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Yes they are utterly gone. Lots of NPCs do not even move anymore lol.

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23 points

He always said, “You can’t trust that Almsivi Intervention! Why walk when you can ride!”

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i’ve played hundreds of hours modded and unmodded. whiterun is a safe place for me. well, and windhelm a bit. i love the vibe of the world (maybe because i grew up in a very cold place) and i can turn my brain off when i’m exploring caves (since they’re all very similar, or i’ve already done them). i even like the easy-ass cave puzzles since i don’t play the game to think.

to me, skyrim is like modded minecraft, it’s chill and familiar and i can just wander around and listen to the soundtrack (also i just learned about the 42 minute Skyrim Atmospheres track on the OST and now I measure my activites in “number of Skyrim Atmospheres”)

but i have trouble with the combat. i think most recently i had fun with a 2h weapon. i hate the magic and while i used to be able to stealth archer everything when i was young nowadays its super frustrating because the stealth system gets more “realistic” and less fun if you do any kind of modding of the combat system, and actually clearing a room as a stealth archer even in vanilla can be an exercise in quicksave/reload (maybe i’m just bad idk)

tbh, the most fun I had was on the switch when i bought it again (damnit todd), and i’m not sure modding was really worth it. i got starfield for free with a cpu i bought and didn’t make it past the elevator because the game ran so badly on my computer. i did watch a semi-playthrough of it and it didn’t seem like something i’d like. i kept trying to get into no man’s sky and i bounced on it for some reason, and i think it would be the same for starfield.

idk, it just clicks for me every couple of years and i get obsessed with it. when i was young my dad surprised me with a copy of oblivion one day randomly and i played the crap out of it but hated the level scaling etc. skyrim improved on that in some ways - the level scaling feels less punishing in skyrim. i also couldn’t figure out how to level up in oblivion (i was 12 or something), so skyrim was an improvement there.

oblivion was still better than ultima 9 though for me (though i still have a cloth map for that), ask me how i lost multiple days to the tutorial tower in that game…

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i also couldn’t figure out how to level up in oblivion (i was 12 or something), so skyrim was an improvement there.

Same. I just ran around and did quests forever, then got a quest where i finally had to sleep to advance it and then i leveled up like 20 times and all the enemies were in daedric when i maybe had some mithril.

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Okay it’s over everyone, the R*dditors have found the thread here.

Choice cuts:

The “Bethesda hasn’t made a really good game since 2002” gives it away as yet another case of sour grapes from a Morrowind stan.

People really do think I’m like, a Morrowind purist, but frankly it was too complex for me at the time, I played Oblivion and Fallout 3 way more. I like Morrowind the best other than NV but I do think F3 and Oblivion are decent games.

We can’t just casually enjoy or dislike or criticize something anymore. We have to make sweeping statements that leave zero room for nuance.

NUANCE! CONTEXT! CIVILITY!!! I guess “dogshit” was kinda spicy of me to use, but I really do not like Skyrim at all lol.

Mom says it’s -my- turn to post the controversial take about one of the best selling games of all time in order to garner engagement and make money

Tell me how to make money from hexbear posting right now! But anybody who thinks this is like a controversial take for clicks, 1) why “karmafarm” on fuckin hexbear, 2) no I actually do think this. I also think Sonic Adventure 2 and Symphony of the Night were catastrophic game design mistakes, fwiw.

Update: oh man I am so not looking at r*ddit comments anymore. “Im not gonna stop enjoying it just cuz some youtuber said so” okay nice! Literally go for it!! R*dditors are fuckin built different.

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Okay, we share the same spicy game takes it seems.

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Thank u

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Skyrim is boring, every sonic game is trash no exceptions and Symphony of the Night and other metroidy castlevanias have awful level design

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Redditors are so cringe but it’s funny watching them flail around and fail at basic reading comprehension

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It was sort of my desperate hope that since bearsite is rad, this would not cause (400 replies) or whatever. Alas, gamerdom persists.

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Symphony of the Night were catastrophic game design mistakes

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Yeah I wrote an essay (scroll down) about why I hate it to death and it bores me!!

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I find it odd that you don’t mention Aria at all. It’s the main one of these games I played, so I don’t have much of a reference point for the rant.

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Seven out of 10 isn’t bad, goes downhill once the castle inverts.

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Why do we have to do this thing every few years where we decide something people used to like is actually dogshit?

I hate when people say this. Your fave was dogshit from the start fucko, you were just so swept up in the hype that you ignored all criticisms.

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Ikr, how dare people change their minds, lmao

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Sonic Adventure 2

I will not hear this disrespect for the game that came attached to Chao Garden.

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Don’t get chao garden either. It is fine? I guess I have the wrong kind of autism…

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