190 points

Electric buses have a battery from a probably reputable supplier, with a decent BMS.

Escooters often come from AliExpress.

There is a difference.

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Also it’s not even a choice. Busses are not mass produced vehicles they’re regulated individually made commercial vehicles, and when the bus manufacturers say ‘were not building manual transmissions as of X date’, that’s it. It’s not happening anymore. Same with ABS, and now electric, unless you want to start manufacturing busses yourself, it’s not gonna be a choice by then.

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It’s not just that; it’s that a regulator signed off on the bus, the city has liability insurance on the bus, and the bus manufacturer will themselves be accredited and insured.

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18 points

It’s insane to ban e-bikes though since most of those come from reputable sources who are internationally recognized bike manufacturers. The people who made my electric bike also make professional bicycles for Olympians. Pretty sure the battery is reliable and isn’t going to explode.

My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don’t ask) and nothing happened. Literally it didn’t even register anything had happened it just carried it on.

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21 points

My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don’t ask)

You’re not the boss of me. What happened?

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8 points

The bike felt the battery heating up and wanted to cool down

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20 points

Yours may be fine.

Barry Shitpea’s £100 dodgy 2000W temu special may not. And you can’t expect a bus driver to inspect every bike to only let reputable brands on.

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3 points

My coworker bought one for $500 shipped. I highly doubt that battery has been properly inspected, especially since just buying a battery with similar capacity costs more than that.

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1 point

The problem is telling the difference between a good bike (noting that even Samsung screwed that up with the Note 7…) and these: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/fire-brigade-calls-for-e-bike-battery-clampdown-after-london-man-suffers-life-changing-burns

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3 points

Didn’t see them banning powerbank or batteries from powertools, and both also allowed on plane.

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6 points

Allowed in carry on but not checked bags, for the same reason.

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2 points

One is allowed, one is straight out banned.

One is high up in the sky, one is on the land.

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1 point

How is it better for those batteries to malfunction in the passenger compartment instead of the storage compartment of the plane? I don’t understand that.

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Aircraft typically have a limit of 100 or 160 watt-hours and require that the battery be separate or the whole device be small (think laptop sized) so that you can dump it in a fireproof bag.

An e-bike has a ~1kWh battery that is probably strapped or zip-tied in place and there’s probably no serious firefighting equipment.

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1 point

Stop and dump it at the road side?

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I think it’s worth considering banning that type of battery, but a whole category of vehicles? There could be good reasons to ban the whole category as well but then state that, instead of making up some shit about batteries.

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44 points

No one has the time to check every escooter against a long list of battery supplier every time one wants to board.

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Sure, but you can ban imports and make them illegal to own just like any other thing. You can’t prevent all crime but that’s no reason not to try.

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67 points

Hey just wanted to let you know, I’ve read every single post in this community and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future every night before bed when I use lemmy to claw some precious time back from the eternal grind.

Thanks for posting.

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I’m glad you’re enjoying these. I’ll keep logging in to post greentexts until I forget.

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4 points

Where do you find these? I go on 4chan and it’s mostly porn…

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I’ve just been saving random greentexts for years that get posted elsewhere. It’s much better than trying to sift through the porn and other garbage yourself.

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I second this, it’s nice to come here every few days and read through all the new posts. :)

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50 points

People used to say the same about cellphones.

I remember one episode where a girl in the bus was texting and some old lady got up to tell her that “it will go into the engine”. The old lady was terrified.

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That reminds me of something.

Also on a bus. There was a group of girls on the bus and they were having a big loud argument about whether or not one of the group would receive a text from her partner or friend or whatever because “how would the text know where they were, as the bus is moving”.

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28 points

A valid question. Luckily a lot of work has been done to address it.

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Pretty much the first thing that needed to be solved when moving from 1-way pagers to 2-way phones. Pagers could just get a broadcast analog signal and determine themselves if they were the intended recipient. 2-way needed more bandwidth and a dedicated communication channel to a specific device, so broadcast wasn’t feasible. Thus, phones would send a registration signal that a tower would pick up, and that specific tower would handle all communication to that phone. If another tower got the registration signal, communication would switch to that tower.

Interestingly enough, there was a period (for a fairly long time) that if you were travelling too fast, you could either a) not be able to register on a network, or b) overwhelm the network with registrations - part of the reason why phones had to be turned off on airplanes

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47 points

My city bans bikes from buses because of the space they take up. Scooters and folding bikes are ok only if they’re folded up small enough not to be obstructive.

The really shitty thing is that bikes are allowed on trains. But if the trains are unavailable and get replaced by a rail replacement bus…because it’s a bus, you can’t take your bike.

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35 points

Most of the buses where I am have a bike rack attached to the exterior, I’ve definitely taken that for granted.

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19 points

I’ve heard that they used to have those here. But that they took too long to put your bike onto, causing buses to fall behind schedule. So they got rid of them.

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1 point

What? They take less than ten seconds.

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4 points

When I was younger, every time I tried to use one, it was full. There’s such limited space that it becomes unreliable.

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2 points

Damn, how I long for one of these.

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9 points

Funnily, here in my City in Germany, they only banned E-Scooters because of the battery exploding thing but E-Bikes are okay

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8 points

I was until now unaware that there were places where (non-folded) bikes were allowed on buses. On trams and trains sure, but buses have such limited space that I can’t imagine a bike being transported in them.

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6 points

I have seen in more than one place a bicycle rack attached to the front of the bus to allow a few bikes

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Not much more difficult to accommodate than wheelchairs or prams. Actually easier in many cases because the operator or probably more fit and the object more insensitive to placement.

The shape can be unwieldy because of the length, though.

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3 points

My city has bike racks on the front of buses. Bikes can go on trains but not during peak commuting times.

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Trains used to be the same here (with the exception that you could always take your bike on the train during peak hours in the non-peak direction, it was only peak direction that was banned), until they were trying to get people back on public transport after/late during the pandemic. Then they started allowing it even in peak hours, with some weird limitations like a maximum of 2 bikes per car, and only in the first or last car of the train.

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3 points

I’ve lived in a few cities with exterior bike racks on the busses.

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A few years ago the same thing happened to me. There was someone who wasn’t doing to good, on top of the station building on the next stop along throwing tiles and other things off. The operator got some replacement busses, that I couldn’t get as I had my bike. So I just sat there with someone else who could get on as they had their dog. For about 4-5 hours. Sucked allot as I was tired, the dog was cute though.

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43 points

in defense of the bus, the battery pack in the bus is likely heat shielded and isolated to prevent fires from being a massive risk.

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Yeah and it is high quality and regularly inspected but if you bring random aliexpress chinesium scooter who knows what kinda shortcuts were used to get it under 300 dollars

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15 points

maintained by a small child

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By kids for kidstm

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6 points

They always say the best gifts are the ones your kids makes you, Chinese parents must get some great stuff.

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4 points

we love a good child labor battery pack

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Aliexpress is now a beacon of quality compared to the terrible stuff available on Temu. The worst part is that people buying a spare battery for their eScooter won’t do the research and will just be happy to get a “good” deal, until it explodes in their sleep…

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