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Please don’t use retarded in this manner

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This is 4chan, not something the poster said, 4chan is a cesspit, and this is to be expected.

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Who are you talking to? The 4chan user that posted this last month on 4chan?

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That’s like being mad at not being able to ride your handmade car on the interstate

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i dont think that an electric fleet is feasable by 2030. for one simple reason: wintertime. the way to go for commercial vehicles is for the time being dieselelectric. that means diesel generator, battery, and electric drive.

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We already have a fully electric bus fleet in my city (Oslo, Norway).

Granted, when we had a period of extreme cold and snow last winter there was a bit of chaos. The electric buses did struggle a bit with range (though we’re talking -20 C), but the main problem was the combination of rear wheel drive and lots of snow.

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do they have heating? maybe i am out of the loop, but last thing i read about electric busses was that they end up scrapped quite fast. i will read up on oslo, thanks.

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Yes, they’re modern city buses with heating and air conditioning. Most of the buses are from the Solaris Urbino Electric line, but we also have quite a few from Mercedes, BYD and MAN.

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No? San Francisco has had electric busses for decades. They go up and down hills all the time. Their only problem is they have no batteries, so once they are disconnected they stop. It happens every day.

I think something combination of a small battery and a direct connection will work great. The battery only needs to work for an hour and the bus will be able to get around just fine.

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Electric buses have a battery from a probably reputable supplier, with a decent BMS.

Escooters often come from AliExpress.

There is a difference.

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I think it’s worth considering banning that type of battery, but a whole category of vehicles? There could be good reasons to ban the whole category as well but then state that, instead of making up some shit about batteries.

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No one has the time to check every escooter against a long list of battery supplier every time one wants to board.

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Sure, but you can ban imports and make them illegal to own just like any other thing. You can’t prevent all crime but that’s no reason not to try.

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Didn’t see them banning powerbank or batteries from powertools, and both also allowed on plane.

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Aircraft typically have a limit of 100 or 160 watt-hours and require that the battery be separate or the whole device be small (think laptop sized) so that you can dump it in a fireproof bag.

An e-bike has a ~1kWh battery that is probably strapped or zip-tied in place and there’s probably no serious firefighting equipment.

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Stop and dump it at the road side?

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Allowed in carry on but not checked bags, for the same reason.

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One is allowed, one is straight out banned.

One is high up in the sky, one is on the land.

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How is it better for those batteries to malfunction in the passenger compartment instead of the storage compartment of the plane? I don’t understand that.

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Also it’s not even a choice. Busses are not mass produced vehicles they’re regulated individually made commercial vehicles, and when the bus manufacturers say ‘were not building manual transmissions as of X date’, that’s it. It’s not happening anymore. Same with ABS, and now electric, unless you want to start manufacturing busses yourself, it’s not gonna be a choice by then.

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It’s not just that; it’s that a regulator signed off on the bus, the city has liability insurance on the bus, and the bus manufacturer will themselves be accredited and insured.

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It’s insane to ban e-bikes though since most of those come from reputable sources who are internationally recognized bike manufacturers. The people who made my electric bike also make professional bicycles for Olympians. Pretty sure the battery is reliable and isn’t going to explode.

My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don’t ask) and nothing happened. Literally it didn’t even register anything had happened it just carried it on.

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Yours may be fine.

Barry Shitpea’s £100 dodgy 2000W temu special may not. And you can’t expect a bus driver to inspect every bike to only let reputable brands on.

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My coworker bought one for $500 shipped. I highly doubt that battery has been properly inspected, especially since just buying a battery with similar capacity costs more than that.

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The problem is telling the difference between a good bike (noting that even Samsung screwed that up with the Note 7…) and these: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/fire-brigade-calls-for-e-bike-battery-clampdown-after-london-man-suffers-life-changing-burns

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My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don’t ask)

You’re not the boss of me. What happened?

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The bike felt the battery heating up and wanted to cool down

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39 points

I cannot have my own nuclear reactor, but the state can build nuclear power plants, wheres the fairness, wheres the freedom

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You just need to stop telling yourself you can’t do things and do whatever you want. A child could build a nuclear reactor, so what’s stopping you?

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2019/01/28/beifuss-file-memphis-youth-jackson-oswalt-builds-home-nuclear-fusion-reactor/1977266002/

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the threat of jail time.

Also cancer.

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Just don’t tell them about it. They don’t have to know about. Like my skull collection for example.

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