80 points

Firefox works great.

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download firefox

look inside

80% of mozilla revenue is from google

You can’t escape

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26 points

Even if the Mozilla foundation went bankrupt tomorrow, Firefox would persist. It might not be as quick to update, but it’s an open source project that people will keep working on, regardless of the money.

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4 points

I’ve always been curious how many lines of code in Chromium and Firefox are from salaried software engineers, and how many are from community contributions

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18 points

Who cares where the revenue comes from? There’s no google spyware in there, and it’s competition, that’s what really matters.

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8 points

I just don’t like that we’re relying on the goodwill (or need for token “competition” to try to avoid antitrust) of Google for Mozilla to stick around, an ad company shouldn’t be de facto controlling almost every single browser

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Download Firefox

Change default search engine

Problem solved 😁

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Changing your search engine doesn’t stop Google from controlling 80% of Mozilla’s revenue or almost the entirety of the rest of the browser space

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5 points

You can’t escape

You can change the default search provider, so you actually can escape.

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-36 points

Nah

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70 points

There are two browsers, chrome and FF.

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41 points

Three if you count Webkit/Safari

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25 points

I don’t think I can install it on my android phone, so I don’t count it

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9 points

Though the engine is still being actively worked on to provide android support https://blogs.igalia.com/jani/bringing-webkit-back-to-android/

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6 points

IIRC the Steam browser also uses WebKit tho

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1 point

Who said you can only have Android phones?

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9 points

Pfft. I’m going back to the og Netscape Navigator 😎

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6 points

Isn’t that just what Firefox was before it was Firefox?

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5 points

Me too, but I’m just waiting for this jpeg to finish loading

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4 points

picks up the phone

DE-DURRRR-DE-DEDA-EEEEEEEEKK

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6 points

It feels very weird to say but

I think maybe

the world was better when Trident existed??

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9 points

SILENCE THIS HERETIC!

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1 point

What?

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5 points

Safari

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48 points

> downloads desktop app

> looks inside

> it’s a webpage with a dedicated browser

(Web 2.0 and it’s consequences…)

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9 points

Why even make a desktop app at this point? I get doing that if it has some inherent advantage over the web version, but why go through the trouble of making another program if it’s just gonna be the same but in electron?

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23 points

Think of all that lovely data and tracking you can slurp up when unconstrained by the browser sandbox.

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10 points

A few advantages.

  1. You can make app specific notifications.

  2. You can stop worrying about security since you just lock the electron version

  3. The user thinks it is an actual app and that this is better.

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7 points

Example with Discord (a website and an electron app): You have to download the desktop app to have stuff like: game activity (show others what game you are playing), global hotkeys for stuff like muting microphone, local Krisp noise cancellation

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8 points

Why I dislike web apps. They make the devs lazy enough to not bother making a native app

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43 points

I switched to Firefox because of Googlea plans to stop adblockers.

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I still prefer FF or Vivaldi over Google Chrome. Yes Vivaldi is Open Source Chromium, but at least it doesn’t have the Chrome crap in it.

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Vivaldi contains Chromium, but it isn’t itself open-source, by the way.

They say of themselves that “for all practical purposes the Vivaldi source code is available for audit”. I would not fully agree with that either, but I guess, at that point the open-source purists have already lost interest anyways.

https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-source/

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9 points

It’s still the same rendering engine. There are two browsers.

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4 points

3 if you count Safari

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That’s like saying there’s only 5 games because they use the same game engine

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2 points

You can’t compare games to browsers tho

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1 point

I didn’t know that each browser accesses different content on a different internet. I’ll have to check that out. /s

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3 points

Is there a mobile Vivaldi counterpart? It doesn’t make sense for me that I can’t share history with desktop and mobile together

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3 points

Oh I remember now, it doesn’t support extensions

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There is, but on iPhone at least it sucks. I love Vivaldi on desktop - every time I try something else I quickly give up. But on mobile I can’t endorse it at the moment.

Perhaps it’s better on Android though, I don’t know.

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I tried Vivaldi, it’s a good browser but I prefer Brave because it has build it Tor. In my country most torrent sites are blocked so a built-in Tor is useful to me, it can open those sites without VPN.

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Brave is also a shifty shady browser that has problems with inserting affiliate links without telling you and selling off user data. They’re really not better or remotely trustworthy TBH, you might as well use the actual TOR browser built on Firefox if you need that capability.

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28 points

Yeah, I don’t understand how Brave became acceptable all of the sudden.

Did they do some big marketing campaign in the US or something?

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Also the android app is crap and keeps crashing, and their ad blocker is mich inferior to the glory of ublock origin

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