35 points

I still prefer FF or Vivaldi over Google Chrome. Yes Vivaldi is Open Source Chromium, but at least it doesn’t have the Chrome crap in it.

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I tried Vivaldi, it’s a good browser but I prefer Brave because it has build it Tor. In my country most torrent sites are blocked so a built-in Tor is useful to me, it can open those sites without VPN.

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Brave is also a shifty shady browser that has problems with inserting affiliate links without telling you and selling off user data. They’re really not better or remotely trustworthy TBH, you might as well use the actual TOR browser built on Firefox if you need that capability.

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28 points

Yeah, I don’t understand how Brave became acceptable all of the sudden.

Did they do some big marketing campaign in the US or something?

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Also the android app is crap and keeps crashing, and their ad blocker is mich inferior to the glory of ublock origin

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Is there a mobile Vivaldi counterpart? It doesn’t make sense for me that I can’t share history with desktop and mobile together

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Oh I remember now, it doesn’t support extensions

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There is, but on iPhone at least it sucks. I love Vivaldi on desktop - every time I try something else I quickly give up. But on mobile I can’t endorse it at the moment.

Perhaps it’s better on Android though, I don’t know.

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9 points

It’s still the same rendering engine. There are two browsers.

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4 points

3 if you count Safari

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That’s like saying there’s only 5 games because they use the same game engine

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You can’t compare games to browsers tho

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I didn’t know that each browser accesses different content on a different internet. I’ll have to check that out. /s

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Vivaldi contains Chromium, but it isn’t itself open-source, by the way.

They say of themselves that “for all practical purposes the Vivaldi source code is available for audit”. I would not fully agree with that either, but I guess, at that point the open-source purists have already lost interest anyways.

https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-source/

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Mozilla Corp’s Gecko Engine has allowed several non-corporate flavored browsers into existence, such as various forks on their github or Waterfox.

Then if you dont mind slow speeds you can try Tor Browser.

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There are two browsers, chrome and FF.

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41 points

Three if you count Webkit/Safari

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I don’t think I can install it on my android phone, so I don’t count it

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Though the engine is still being actively worked on to provide android support https://blogs.igalia.com/jani/bringing-webkit-back-to-android/

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IIRC the Steam browser also uses WebKit tho

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1 point

Who said you can only have Android phones?

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9 points

Pfft. I’m going back to the og Netscape Navigator 😎

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5 points

Me too, but I’m just waiting for this jpeg to finish loading

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4 points

picks up the phone

DE-DURRRR-DE-DEDA-EEEEEEEEKK

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6 points

Isn’t that just what Firefox was before it was Firefox?

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6 points

It feels very weird to say but

I think maybe

the world was better when Trident existed??

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9 points

SILENCE THIS HERETIC!

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1 point

What?

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5 points

Safari

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But what about mobile? I started using FF and I have to admit that Chrome is a better mobile experience. Brave isn’t for me either.

Edit: lol I’m sorry my experience doesn’t match yours and I chose to ask a question.

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Chrome doesn’t support browser extensions so it is an awful experience for me

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Same, curious what issues they have in FF, I only know of a couple sites that don’t work right in FF mobile

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I still use ff android, but it seriously annoys me that this bug hasn’t been fixed in 6 years https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535985

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Mull is great on Android.

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Welcome to Lemmy where having an opinion even slightly different from the open source/Linux fanboys grants you downvotes to oblivion, no questions asked 🙃

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3 points

Thanks for putting yourself on the pyre to prove a point. Hivemind is worse here than Reddit imo, because at least Reddit has a diverse user base…

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Yup, I totally agree. I’ve been in this situation a few times where I just asked a question because I wanted to know people’s opinion about something privacy or FOSS related, and got downvoted.

I have an IRL friend who went back to Reddit in large parts because of stuff like this. It’s pretty bad.

And I say all this as an open source developer

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The Reddit hive mind behaviour is seeping through the cracks.

For me personally, the experience is allowed to take a hit, hell even a major hit, if the browser respects me as a user. FF seems to be better on that front although I’ll confess I use Vanadium on my phone. Its GrapheneOS’ default browser.

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“Everyone that doesn’t share my specific preferences is a sheep (╯° □°) ╯”

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8 points

Firefox has ad blockers on mobile.

That immediately makes the mobile web useable again.

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FF mobile is slow

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Running speedometer 3.0 gives me 7.68 for FF and 10.4 for Chrome.

That’s not an enormous difference and in real life usage the ads and cookie banner bullshit I can’t block more than makes up for it.

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My opinion I’d say lose chrome if you absolutely need a chromium browser use thorium any other time use Firefox or a fork of it like Librewolf.

The reason I say Thorium is because this is in the readme.

Manifest V2 support force enabled (Starting in M128 they are experimenting with disabling MV2). It will be completely removed in M136 (10 months from now), and when they finally do remove the actual code for loading MV2 extensions, it will be restored, because F**k Google! Even if it takes a crapload of work, I am determined to restore it, because without UBlock Origin working properly in Thorium, I wouldn't even want to use my own browser!

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