107 points

Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.

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116 points

We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?

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Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don’t really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.

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24 points

Why aren’t we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.

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20 points

That’s not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn’t that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).

There’s also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.

Ideally, we wouldn’t buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn’t even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues…

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Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.

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2 points

Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.

I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.

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When you say “we” as in you and me, yeah, I don’t think we could manage to recycle them. “We” as a planet certainly can and many countries do.

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3 points

Which countries? I thought only 9% of plastic is actually recycled.

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34 points

But much better to use aluminium.

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12 points

At least aluminum actually is recyclable.

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0 points

There is still a plastic liner on the inside, glass, stainless steel or nothing

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Plastic and glass aren’t recyclable huh? Better just throw them in the landfill, much better.

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10 points

Source on this “pipeline”?

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17 points

Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.

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…do you not believe bottles are recycled? Or is this just a snarky way of pointing out how ineffective the system is?

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7 points

If you think recycling is effective you have fallen to their propaganda

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1 point

I was a bit too snarky

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68 points

Oh no. I can’t relive the childhood frustration of being unable to access that sweet nectar shielded behind an impenetrable puncture-proof material with no tools to work with but the flimsiest of mini plastic straws.

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I don’t know about over there, but here they’ve started selling them with paper straws. Making it even more impossible to puncture that stupid little hole while ruining the straw in the process.

And of course it’s the only thing my daughter wants to drink. I’ve had to resort to using a nail file to open those things.

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I hate paper straws. There are many different compostable straws and paper is about the worst.

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4 points

It’s like a game now. Can you finish the entire pouch before the straw disintegrates? Stay tuned to find out.

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14 points

Skill issue. You could always penetrate the tiny hole with your canines if you were adamant enough

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1 point

If you were god-level, you could slurp it out through the little hole.

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11 points

Then you push hard enough to punch through, and the straw goes straight out the back too.

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8 points

That was the worst. I loved it.

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They even made one of the ends of the straw pointy to give the false illusion that you can easily stick it in. Of course, all it did was puncture a hole so tiny that the straw (that had been bent several times already) couldn’t go in, so you just sucked the juice out of the package with your mouth.

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63 points

I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.

Personally I don’t care if a pouched drink exists or not, but if they are no longer producing pouched drinks they should probably retire the brand.

Do you remember what a CapriSun tastes like? It’s somewhere between an extremely-artificially flavored “juice” concentrate and a “fruit flavored” drink like Kool-Aid. The whole appeal was the packaging.

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This is absolutely reeks of a bullshit “OMG the sky must be falling for you” condescending article from an older generation that thinks younger nostalgia is silly. I wouldn’t give this article any more credence than a boomer yelling “Avocado Toast!” at you when you’re enjoying a nice brunch. It’s just needlessly sensationalist shit stirring.

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8 points

It’s quite literally a bit of orange juice, filled up with water and loaded with sugar.

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8 points

It also includes flavoring (of which the orange juice is one). They come in more flavors than just orange.

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2 points

THEY DO?!

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5 points

Any chance you are thinking of SunnyD?

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I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.

…yeah you’re in a Lemmy comment section.

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179 post score seems highly nostalgic to me tbh

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I invited myself because it’s an interesting article, nothing to do with nostalgia.

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49 points

Plastic bottles in general should be illegal. It’s cans, glass bottles, or GTFO when it comes to beverages for me.

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FYI cans have a plastic liner to prevent acidic foods from dissolving the aluminium, so there’s still some plastic in it (much less then fully plastic bottles tho)

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It’s more that it’s heavier, so you have to transport a lot more weight for the same amount of product.

Secondary to that, glass can’t be shaped as compactly as an aluminum can or plastic bottle, so it takes up more room for the same amount of product.

There’s no perfect solution, which is why we have a lot of options.

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11 points

Ah, but without plastic bottles how would we generate additional profits from the excess waste of oil production?

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8 points

Glass has the best taste too, because it is almost totally chemically inert, you don’t get the odd flavor changes that you do with aluminum cans or plastic bottles.

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28 points

Good, the packages can’t even be recycled. Corporations should be held liable for their plastic waste contributions via the packaging.

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You think the bottles are going to be any better? They’re going to end up in the ocean with all of the other plastic bottles from other drinks.

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2 points

No, glass or stainless steel

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3 points

Not aluminum? Have you ever seen single serving drinks sold in stainless steel?

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1 point

Those bottles in the image look like plastic. I can’t find anything indicating they are using glass or stainless steel.

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PET bottles are very easily recicled. In my country a sizeable amount of PET bottles sold are 100%recycled PET

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But only a small fraction of the plastic gets recycled.

If 9/10ths of the plastic ends up in a landfill or the Pacific garbage patch, having 1/10th of that plastic recycled into another bottle (which then will eventually have 9/10ths tossed in a landfill anyways) isn’t doing much. It’s better than not recycling at all, but it’s green washing to say that it’s “eco friendly”, which Capri-Sun allegedly did at this trade show.

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Any plastic should be considered unrecyclable. At least pouches use less overall plastic then bottles.

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Most plastics are difficult (if at all possible) to recycle.

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I agree. Fixed my grammar.

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2 points

you only need to make them pay the price of each packaging every day until it biodegrades. you’ll see change very quickly.

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They’ll spend 300millions in lawyer fees to find a loophole where they only need to pay one packet for the time it takes to burn.

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