I’m 40yrs old. I voted for Hillary. I HATE the democrats, I HATE the republicans. Not once in 40yrs have they successfully reduced the budget, the closest was Clinton and we see how that turned out “erry budy gets a chek instead of healthy deflation”, both parties have ruled during severe drops in quality of living standards, both parties have to destroyed peoples lives with the failed war on drugs. Both parties are the finger puppets for the 1%. I refuse to play their game, we lose no matter what. Vote for your drug war baron that got famous for arresting people for marijuana possession. Vote for your conman that ruins small businesses by refusing to pay for their services. Both think you’re an idiot, and they can’t wait until your turn to be vulnerable to them. But sure, by not voting for the douche you are supporting the turd sandwich, in the same way by not getting a diesel gas car your supporting electric vehicles.
“Ha ha, it’s so funny when minorities are hurt more because I don’t feel like the suffering of oppressed demographics matter!”
I understand why you and many other people are extremely reluctant to vote/against voting in this election. But I feel your analogy is incorrect.
By not voting for the douche bloodthirsty democrat you are supporting the turd sandwich fascist and (more) bloodthirsty republican, in the same way that not pulling the lever is supporting the death of more people on the train tracks.
Not buying diesel/gas car =/= inherent passive support for electric in any way, but in a two party system, in an election like this one, not voting, or not voting democrat directly increases pedestrian train deaths the odds of america falling to a fascist party with a plan. You can vote * and still protest, petition, and riot against the policies you dont like.
A more nuanced version of this is, if you live in a state that has 0% chance of swinging, feel free to do a protest vote. Voting for Jill Stein or write in Bernie Sanders in California or Wyoming will not change anything, on the other hand if you do funny votes in Pennsylvania or Georgia you are worse than MAGA people.
Even if you are in a Blue State, the US needs to overwhelmingly reject Trump both in electoral and popular vote.
Otherwise a Trump replacement will pop up in 4 years.
Yes, with electoral college that strategy is acceptable… buuuuuut…
DON’T sleep for a second on the downballot races, for House Rep., Senator, Governor, state positions, ballot measures (including on a woman’s right to an abortion), and everything else applicable to you on Election Day. DON’T stay home even if you don’t like your choice of President/VP or that your state won’t affect who will reside in the Oval Office.
Any of these other races can be close. Each has a piece of a government that has big effects on many of the issues you care about.
We can change the Dems and push them towards actually being good by just uncritically voting for them every election I see no flaw in this plan.
Best to wait until the opposition isn’t someone who will straight up take away your ability to vote in the first place.
Let me check who I could’ve voted for Dem presidential candidate this year in the primaries. Here’s the list:
Oh I should’ve voted in 2020? I could’ve chose between:
- Biden (no)
- Bernie “Israel has every right to defend itself” Sanders
- Bloomberg (lmao)
Biden (no)
why not biden? His admin has been pretty productive in the term they’ve had thus far, pushing through multiple legislative accomplishments, only heeded by the worst of the worst (the border)
“Bernie Sanders isn’t pure enough for me” Jesus fucking Christ.
Like, how left do you think the electorate in this country is, exactly?
Not to mention showing up for the primaries too.
It fucking mystifies me that people will condemn the dems for never voting for progressives in primaries, and then just never turn out to the primaries themselves.
Primary turnout is consistently pathetic and an abject condemnation of the wannabe revolutionaries who speak with fire then act with all the likewise energy of cosmic background radiation.
I’m still going to tick the Kamala box, but I’m ashamed of how little she’s trying to be a good candidate. After Nov4, I’ll get going with direct action.
Main issue for most people is the fact that she’s not trying harder to stop Israel from killing Palestinians.
Man you must really be angry at the rest of world too right? I mean at least her team is working for a cease fire, that’s more than the rest of the world is doing. Or are you pushing some form of narrative?
Oh and I’m sure your response will have something to say about dems not doing anything, need to cut funding, ect. I’ll say there’s a 10 year weapons contract that was signed in 2016. Then you’ll bring up the Leahy Law, then I’ll bring up without Israel Iran will run roughshot over the middle east killing loads of people.
Then we can go back and forth, I’ll ask two questions, you’ll answer one of them with some bullshit.
So, you can save it, I’ll leave it as it is and I’ll continue to be disgusted with Israel and the world by not stepping up and stopping the genocide. You can keep posting bullshit about it being the dems fault.
people need to get over the israel/palestine thing. they’re going to kill each other. there’s nothing you can do about it. your precious conscience is not the most important thing in the world. if you get bogged down on one issue, you will miss the bigger issue.
Well, there’s not much she can do atm as vice-president. It’s very well-known that Biden is very pro-Israeli.
Her rhetoric on the topic as a candidate has been very mixed. She’s been improving since she had that meeting with Uncommitted leaders. Hopefully she can have a better plan than “ask nicely for a ceasefire” to present to voters before the election.
Medicare for All. The insurance pyramid scheme is getting more and more insane
She was a big champion of Medicare for all in 2020. It is indeed a shame she isn’t talking about it now like she did last election. Judging from her 2020 rhetoric though, it is definitely something she would be open to doing if given a cooperative government, I think.
Exactly, her winning is not the end. We need to apply a massive amount of pressure since she is a neoliberal.
Ah yes, the latest in-group propaganda campaign. Please honor me with your downvotes.
It’s funny, because Republicans are running the exact same propaganda on the reverse.
There’s a Ben Garrison cartoon floating around that insinuates not voting for Trump is the same as murdering babies.
These candidates seem to stand for nothing. At least Obama and Biden lied to us about DC Statehood and closing Gitmo and student debt relief. Bush pretended to care about pro-business immigration reform and privatizing social security. Even Trump had “The Wall that Mexico will pay for”.
I’ve got no idea what Trump or Harris are actually campaigning on this year other than to say they aren’t the other person on the ballot. Even RFK is in on the act, having folded his campaign because he doesn’t want to upset MAGA voters.
Yeah there’s never been a better time to vote for a third party. I think we can move past this duopoly superstructure as long as we keep resisting. I don’t think the millenials or zoomers are as gullible as the boomers. But maybe I am being irrationally optimistic.
Yeah there’s never been a better time to vote for a third party
I don’t envy the folks who will be called fascist for supporting Jill Stein or Chase Oliver.
I don’t think the millenials or zoomers are as gullible as the boomers.
The Boomers gave us Ralph Nader, a genuinely honest and respectable man with a progressive agenda and the success record to back it up.
Unfortunately, the Boomers also crucified him for daring to run a national campaign.
I wish we could find another Nader - a guy who would make corrupt shits in Congress visibly shake when he called them out on their bullshit. I don’t think we’ve got anyone like that running today, sadly.
Never been a better time? If you’re in a swing state I want you to remember these words if Trump gets elected again. The horrorshow that will follow will give you time to contemplate. Most of us aren’t voting for Harris on her policy, we’re doing harm reduction.
Explain it to the women in your life.
