Considering tomatoes aren’t even from Europe the Italians can think whatever they want about pizza, they’re not experts, they’re just as wrong as everyone else.
It’s not about being right, it’s about making something that tastes good. Besides that, there are also well established cultural traditions. But as long as people call their garbage pizzas “NY pizza”, or whatever and it’s well distinguished by “Italian pizza” (or Neapolitan, etc.), I don’t see the problem.
And that’s why, as a Midwesterner, I proudly put black olives on my tacos. And it’s tastes pretty damn great!
As long as you aren’t putting cheese or sour cream or using those hard shell things I guess it could pass
Preparing that yourself or are there places where you can buy pickled watermelon?
A plain slice in NY, maybe with some red pepper flakes and parmigiana. Fuckin bliss.
NY style pizza also isn’t anything particularly amazing. New Yorkers are just louder about it, like with everything they do.
NY pizza fucking sucks. You want real pizza, go to Chicago. Everyone knows deep dish is where it’s at.
Yeah I said it. Fight me.
For the whole thing: https://youtu.be/pzXIpp59eoU?si=CVP2J6aM3INbf7WG
It’s fucking soup with cheese that’s so covered in sauce it will never reach any level of golden brown delicious, nor even be able to dream of it. It’s such a US thing to think that more is better while annihilating all the nuance that makes the thing actually good in the first place.
A deep crust is fine, just put more in it and put that cheese on top where it can really shine. Fill that bad bitch with all kinds of great stuff. Use more than the most basic, one-note pizza sauce.
I was so hyped for deep-dish and it let me down so fucking hard.
There’s a lot of things to argue about, but pizza just isn’t one of them. It’s a chunk of bread with leftovers on it. If it tastes good on pizza, it belongs on pizza; and what tastes good on pizza depends on the tongue probing it.
Pineapple… sausage… anchovies… goat cheese… potato chips… a fucking strawberry slurpee - if you like it, you rock it.
The only wrong option is to abstain from making/ordering the pizza you want because that ingredient doesn’t ‘belong’ there.
For what is worth, that’s not how (most?) Italians think about pizza. It’s not a “container” in which you put a bunch of things, but each pizza type is basically a separate dish.
I personally don’t care what people put on their pizza, I simply avoid places that make “pizzas” in a non-italian fashion, like the american (supposedly NY style) ones where you get crust, 2 fingers of industrial cheese and a whole plant of oregano.
It’s very similar for pasta, which many people think as a bread replacement.
This is why their pizzas are so boring. One or two toppings. Come on, get creative with it, Guissepe.
Most of Italian recipes are very simple. The focus usually is on quality on the ingredients and if they are good, a pizza with just mozzarella and tomatoes is already delicious. That said, even in Italy there are plenty of types of pizzas, but most of them don’t have 20 ingredients, I suppose the point is that you actually want to taste what you eat, which is not the case when you mix many different things. There is a very messy and rich pizza (capricciosa) with a lot of toppings though (more than one obviously, but this is the most common).
Personally I am a margherita person, simple and boring is perfect, as long as it tastes great.
P.s. Giuseppe :)
That’s cuz you never had a proper napolitan pizza you uncultured swine. You’d never open your mouth about pizza again, or call anything you can buy in your America a pizza.
I don’t think its the same than combining a sweet fruit with tomato sauce and cheese.
Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.
Just to clarify, I wouldn’t order or make pizza with pineapple for myself, but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal people sometimes make it.
Just eat what you like and don’t force your taste on others.
See, the problem is that pizza often gets shared, and these barbarians will order it with pineapple physically on it, like put right on a perfectly good ham pizza, so then you have to pull the pineapple off, let the dog lick the pineapple juice from the pineapple holes, and then you can eat it, but you still can taste the lingering traces of a fruit that should, by all the laws of man and god, be used exclusively in deserts.
It’s an affront against nature and pizza.
Downvote away, but you know deep in your heart of hearts that I’m right.
Dude. Your problem is not the pineapple, but that you are apparently surrounded by inconsiderate people.
If you get pizza or any food to share, you should make sure you choose a topping everyone is okay with. If necessary make it half pineapple half pepperoni or whatever.
If you order for a group of people and choose something that is controversial without checking back, you’re an asshole.
Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.
Please explain yourself. You can’t just say this like it’s normal and morally/ethically acceptable.
What is there to explain? If you don’t add any savory ingredients to pasta it is not salty or savory in taste.
Same as you can prepare rice savory or sweet as rice pudding or something.
You do know “pasta” just means the noodle, right? It’s still pasta if you don’t add anything?
There are lots of sweet pasta dishes in the world like sweet kugel or milk noodles.
I just add (cold) applesauce onto (warm) noodles and eat it. If I’m fancy, I make applesauce from fresh apples.
Also, look up portugese Aletria. That’s angle hair pasta as it’s best.
Yeah I once lived with a family in Eastern Europe who would sometimes make dessert ravioli by filling it with fruit and sugar and dusting it with powdered sugar. It was obviously a very different dish than savory pasta but really good actually.
I will go out on a limb here and guess those were not ravioli and some form of pelmeni instead? There are types of them that are usually eaten with sour cream and jam. But the dough used is quite different from the ravioli one, and the filling is cheese (not meat or ricotta/spinach).
Was that the case?
Actually no! But I think they were inspired by pelmeni, but this was ravioli dough. It was in Moldova though, and much of the family had moved to Italy for temporary work. I’m guessing it was a fusion cooking experiment and turned out great and they kept doing it. It started spreading through the town lol. But hey, if it’s good it’s good.
Are you being forced to eat it? If not I’d say stop giving a fuck so hard about what other people like or how they live their lives by things that shouldn’t affect you. You can’t control them. Live and let live. That’s the feel.
And if you’re still not satisfied and have the burning desire to feel outraged, Find something for real to be outrageous about. Like current wars or stupid candidates or fixing up dumb city laws that hurt innocent citizens. Go to a rally to defend some human rights or something like that. Get juicy with your rage.
I’m Portuguese and I’ve seen that abomination here. I’m sorry, I thought it was contained. Now, have you guys heard about chocolate pizza for dessert?
