As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more “leave it up to the states” bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.

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I mean, this won Trudeau 3 elections, so I’d say it’s a worth it campaigning point.

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I should clarify to those non Canadians out there; Trudeau did legalize weed after the first election he won.

It’s just that it was such a popular move I believe it’s the reason he’s been around for so long. It bought a ton of good will with the public.

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Yep. I mean, Harper was shit too and also did not legalize weed.

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TBF, “Leave it up to the states” in the context of recreational use is appropriate here. Extending that concept would necessarily include having extremely limited federal regulation, if any at all.

Medical use, in my opinion, should be federally protected, such that you can acquire medical use cannabis for a uniform set of medical purposes in all states.

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100% disagree. First because it puts people in prison for spurious reasons and secondly because it’s a plant. You can literally just grow it in your back yard. And it will grow really easily. It doesn’t even take work.

You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum. You know what else? San Pedro cactus.

Even with shrooms, it’s legal to own the spores when you’re talking about psilocybin and Amanita Muscaria is 100% legal. It can literally kill you.

We don’t even need to go into tobacco.

How does any of that make sense?

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Oh I didn’t say it made sense, especially in comparison to other legally produced intoxicants. If things made sense, we wouldn’t have gestures widely.

But in the nonsensical paradigm, relegating the legal status of a recreational drug to the state level would be appropriate, and most certainly a step in the right direction. More to the point, I don’t see it being possible for the federal government to command nationwide legality of recreational cannabis. This is why I made a separate statement about medical use.

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The federal government doesn’t need to command that though. They can say that it is federally legal but still allow individual states or smaller governmental divisions to make it illegal. That’s not how it should be, but that is how it works with alcohol, which is why there are dry counties and why Utah can regulate the amount of alcohol in its beer and wine.

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You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum.

Salvia is fucking wild. I do not recommend it unless you want to lose your mind for ~10 minutes or so. Like, from sober to “holy shit I’m on the wheel of fortune right now” in an instant.

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I only did it once. Apart from tasting absolutely horrible, the trip wasn’t even fun. I was laying on the ground and suddenly I was standing upright and was a cowboy leaning against the porch post of a ranch house. And then I was me again. What was the point?

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All these drugs you cite as negative examples have a really good safety profile. So no idea why you do that.

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  1. I didn’t cite them as negative examples.
  2. Amanita muscaria can, as I said, kill you.
  3. Let’s see tobacco’s good safety profile.
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While I complete and totally agree that it should be legalized, or at least federally rescheduled and completely decriminalized, I worry about what happens when it’s federally regulated and taxed.

If it is federally legalized and taxed, it will likely become the domain of the ATF, who will take over continue kicking in doors and doing raids on anyone who is not a huge corporate grower. Marlboro has already trademarked Marlboro Greens and I’m sure every other tobacco giant has their branding ready.

Leaving regulation and taxation to each state is probably better long term, otherwise it’s just going to be a corporate cash grab with established local growers and suppliers getting screwed.

Regardless, it should be completely legal to grow it in your back yard.

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I mean I would appreciate it if it were federally legal. I live in a state where its legal but I’m employed by the federal government so I can’t use it without putting my job at risk.

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I love how it’s a bit of a stretch to back legalising a substance which has become legal in a fair number of states without any issue (that I’m aware of).

How many elections before a candidate is praised for saying something like, “I, unlike the others, am prepared to accept that the populace generally believes that vegetables are part of a healthy diet?”, because we live in a world where the vast majority of candidates are just saying any old stupid shit that is viral on social media.

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Those states still have dispensaries and grow operations raided all the time, putting people who work at them at risk. There’s also the fact that people like me, who need it for medical use, are breaking both state and federal law by going from Indiana to Illinois to buy it. It could potentially put me in federal prison (probably not, but that is the way things stand legally).

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The only way I can explain such stupidity is by assuming malice, e.g.: “We must put endless fear into the poor people. Our decisions are moral, theirs are not.”

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And because of that possibility for malice, it needs to be federally legal.

Cops should not be given tools of oppression.

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I think 40 states have medical and 25 have recreational. It’s insane that it’s even a question about federal legalization at this point.

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And several more have it in a bizarre legal gray area where no one really knows if it’s illegal

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without any issue (that I’m aware of).

Not only that, but states and municipalities have made a killing on taxing it.

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Been waiting a long time for this.

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Good it needs to be done.

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