As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more “leave it up to the states” bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.

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It would’ve been cool if she said this when she was actively putting people in cages for weed.

It would’ve been cool if she said this for the past 4 years while she was VP.

Now she’s saying it for an election. I’m sure she’s legit this time. lol.

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How dare someone change their mind! We should definitely teach her a lesson she won’t forget and be amongst the 3000 people who who vote for Cornel West in November!

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How can you make the claim that she changed her mind? Believe actions not words regardless of who it’s coming from.

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Actions she can’t take until after January 20th? How do you expect people to do that? Or are you really trying to claim that since she hasn’t issued a public apology, she’s definitely lying and hasn’t changed her mind?

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If a politician actually changes their mind that’s fine. If they change their mind to become pro-cannabis legalization, that’s great.

But they shouldnt try to gaslight the populace into believing that this was their stance all along.

If this was Kamala’s position all along, then her actions as District Attorney are very hypocritical.

If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.

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Or you could not let the perfect be the enemy of the good and celebrate a candidate advocating for legalization.

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She co-sponsored a bill to fully legalize it in 2018. Behind closed doors she was advocating for legalizing it as VP, but Biden doesn’t support full legalization so it would’ve been a bad look for him if his VP was publicly going against him when he was still running

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TBF, “Leave it up to the states” in the context of recreational use is appropriate here. Extending that concept would necessarily include having extremely limited federal regulation, if any at all.

Medical use, in my opinion, should be federally protected, such that you can acquire medical use cannabis for a uniform set of medical purposes in all states.

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100% disagree. First because it puts people in prison for spurious reasons and secondly because it’s a plant. You can literally just grow it in your back yard. And it will grow really easily. It doesn’t even take work.

You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum. You know what else? San Pedro cactus.

Even with shrooms, it’s legal to own the spores when you’re talking about psilocybin and Amanita Muscaria is 100% legal. It can literally kill you.

We don’t even need to go into tobacco.

How does any of that make sense?

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Oh I didn’t say it made sense, especially in comparison to other legally produced intoxicants. If things made sense, we wouldn’t have gestures widely.

But in the nonsensical paradigm, relegating the legal status of a recreational drug to the state level would be appropriate, and most certainly a step in the right direction. More to the point, I don’t see it being possible for the federal government to command nationwide legality of recreational cannabis. This is why I made a separate statement about medical use.

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The federal government doesn’t need to command that though. They can say that it is federally legal but still allow individual states or smaller governmental divisions to make it illegal. That’s not how it should be, but that is how it works with alcohol, which is why there are dry counties and why Utah can regulate the amount of alcohol in its beer and wine.

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All these drugs you cite as negative examples have a really good safety profile. So no idea why you do that.

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  1. I didn’t cite them as negative examples.
  2. Amanita muscaria can, as I said, kill you.
  3. Let’s see tobacco’s good safety profile.
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While I complete and totally agree that it should be legalized, or at least federally rescheduled and completely decriminalized, I worry about what happens when it’s federally regulated and taxed.

If it is federally legalized and taxed, it will likely become the domain of the ATF, who will take over continue kicking in doors and doing raids on anyone who is not a huge corporate grower. Marlboro has already trademarked Marlboro Greens and I’m sure every other tobacco giant has their branding ready.

Leaving regulation and taxation to each state is probably better long term, otherwise it’s just going to be a corporate cash grab with established local growers and suppliers getting screwed.

Regardless, it should be completely legal to grow it in your back yard.

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You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum.

Salvia is fucking wild. I do not recommend it unless you want to lose your mind for ~10 minutes or so. Like, from sober to “holy shit I’m on the wheel of fortune right now” in an instant.

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I only did it once. Apart from tasting absolutely horrible, the trip wasn’t even fun. I was laying on the ground and suddenly I was standing upright and was a cowboy leaning against the porch post of a ranch house. And then I was me again. What was the point?

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I mean I would appreciate it if it were federally legal. I live in a state where its legal but I’m employed by the federal government so I can’t use it without putting my job at risk.

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boy if i had rights and benefits for every right and benefit Joe Biden “said he backed”

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Yeah I view these statements more as “I’m going to tell you what you want to hear so you’ll elect me!”

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This close to the election…

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Boy, if you had basic civics knowledge as to how a president in the executive branch cannot pass laws himself but requires the legislative branch (Congress) to pass said laws that he would back.

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Say what you will about the Republicans, at least they get results on their absurd culture war bullshit. Best the Dems can do for the left is ignore us completely and give us Tim Walz as a VP like we should be soooo fucking grateful

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I don’t think Tim Walz was chosen to attract left-wing voters. He’s not center left or far left.

I agree with you that the Democrats tend to ignore the left, and it’s incredible annoying, but at the same time in my opinion Harris is a better candidate than Hillary was. It’s a small improvement, but it’s an improvement. (Obviously this depends on your views on various issues, so you could disagree reasonably enough.)

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Actually the power of executive orders are very broad, and as of 2024, are beyond any limits of law. Official acts of a sitting president cannot be criminalized. He can absolutely order the FDA to immediately remove Marijuana from schedule 1 status, but he won’t. What carrot would Harris have to dangle in front of us at that point?

For context, yes, I’m a dem, and yes, I’m voting for Harris, but fuck me I’m tired of such transparent posturing.

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I’m voting for Harris since she’s below the age of 65 and a Democrat, that’s all I want.

What I need is a president who uses the powers given to them by a corrupt SCOTUS to just say “you gave me this loaded gun, make sure you know where I’m going to point it” and then give us more rights than ever before.

Ensured abortion. Better union rights. Prohibiting book bannings. Better protections for BIPOC and LGBTQ people. Ensuring voting doesn’t get limited due to state lines. Healthcare. Education. Taxing the rich.

Are we going to get that? Never in a million years, we’ll see the end of the Republic before we see any president use their power grabbing for anything meaningfully good and not taking away rights of citizens.

Harris could use it for good but probably won’t. Trump will use it for evil. That’s the honest truth.

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If Biden turns the Oval Office into a grow room does that make it an official act?

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We can give weapons to Israel without congressional approval, but not Ukraine.

We can build a border wall violating federal laws, but we can’t have the DEA approve a plant.

Seems weird how being unabashedly evil is bipartisan and the patriotic duty of the president and anything good the Democratic candidate has to promise they’ll try to work on Congress with, reaching across the isles of the literal actual fascists known as Republicans.

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I remember Biden running on a promise to federally decriminalized Marijuana. Never happened. Don’t expect it to happen under Harris either. Dumb cow laughs about locking up people for profit using less than a gram of weed.

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I can’t wait for the suprise faces of all the people when they realize the cop is lying to them.

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I love how it’s a bit of a stretch to back legalising a substance which has become legal in a fair number of states without any issue (that I’m aware of).

How many elections before a candidate is praised for saying something like, “I, unlike the others, am prepared to accept that the populace generally believes that vegetables are part of a healthy diet?”, because we live in a world where the vast majority of candidates are just saying any old stupid shit that is viral on social media.

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Those states still have dispensaries and grow operations raided all the time, putting people who work at them at risk. There’s also the fact that people like me, who need it for medical use, are breaking both state and federal law by going from Indiana to Illinois to buy it. It could potentially put me in federal prison (probably not, but that is the way things stand legally).

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The only way I can explain such stupidity is by assuming malice, e.g.: “We must put endless fear into the poor people. Our decisions are moral, theirs are not.”

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And because of that possibility for malice, it needs to be federally legal.

Cops should not be given tools of oppression.

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without any issue (that I’m aware of).

Not only that, but states and municipalities have made a killing on taxing it.

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I think 40 states have medical and 25 have recreational. It’s insane that it’s even a question about federal legalization at this point.

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And several more have it in a bizarre legal gray area where no one really knows if it’s illegal

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