216 points

Well, yeah. Isn’t the whole point of these foolish office mandates to get people to quit? That way they can reduce their workforce without the cost and negative press of another round of layoffs.

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35 points

negative press

pretty fucked up that quiet firing via RTO bullshit is less negative press than just laying people off

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2 points

It’s just less visible/explicit. It’s still bad press when it gets noticed and called out like in this thread, it’s just sneakier.

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82 points

Layoffs are not bad press. Not to the shareholders, the only ones who matter to these types. I used to think “oh, layoffs mean the company isn’t doing so good,” but shareholders see “they reduced cost but lost no customers, thus increasing value of the company should it be sold.”

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61 points

I hate that that’s the case.

I’ve been trying to lose weight, so I chopped off my leg just below the knee. I’m several pounds down, and I didn’t have to stop eating even a calorie. It’s amazing.

The only issue is that now I don’t have a leg and exercise may be difficult….

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34 points

Yeah but that’s FUTURE you’s problem, not current you, so it’s totally fine!

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18 points

I’m sure the other leg can make up for it, and it should be grateful for the extra work.

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6 points

Just sell the body to some other rube and move into a new one that still has both legs. It’s easy. What are you, poor?

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1 point

This is true, and it’s weird because these same companies used to hire like crazy because only growth mattered. Finally real financial discipline is being applied. The tech company I work for is open about the fact that revenue-per-employee is something like half of FAANG companies and they want that to change.

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Go into the office and waste every resource you can.

Plug in a fan + heater + aquarium + massage pad at your desk and leave everything on constantly even when you leave

Print every email and throw it in the trash.

Make coffee 50x a day and pour it down the sink

Flush a whole roll of TP every hour

Leave sinks on in the bathroom

Use entire tubs of soap to wash your hands

Turn on the microwave for hours at a time

Heat/cool office thermometer to force HVAC into overdrive

Open new browser windows until your computer crashes and repeat until the network goes down

Company wide meme emails that everyone participates in (team building) that crash servers and dominate inboxes

Pour sugar/crumbs everywhere so there’s pest problems

FORM A UNION

(nuclear option) introduce bedbugs to all your bosses offices

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22 points

This guy RTOs.

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48 points

Ok waste paper, mhmm, coffee, yep, microwave, good thinking—

FORM A UNION

Woah, woah calm down Satan.

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21 points

You forgot the most important one: deliver just enough to not get fired, but way less than you did before RTO. Then point to the stats and show the massive productivity drop after RTO.

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8 points

All that stuff together is probably only one salary per team, except for the Union. I think the Union is the winning idea.

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3 points

Bedbugs in executive offices is best. Make them feel the pain.

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2 points

FORM A UNION

Ok Tyler Durden, that’s about the only reasonable proposal.

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22 points

Probably. But this way you have no control on who quit, with a good probability that are the better ones.

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8 points

True, but execs see statistics, not people. And maybe it’s cheaper to rehire the good ones with a higher salary than deal with severance packages.

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4 points

Shocker.

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69 points

I don’t know about everyone else, but if that were my boss, they’d be severely underestimating my capacity for petty behavior.

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53 points

This is the part not being reported in the news.

Many of us are simply working half as much as we did when we were remote. It’s not worth trying to impress these people. They hate us.

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Continue starving the beast. It’s how these people treat the government.

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18 points

I don’t work for Amazon, but when my employer announced mandatory RTO I simply included travel time in my day. At home I could do 8 hours of pure work. RTO days were about 6 hours of work and 2 hours of commute.

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3 points

Yes, absolutely agree.

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3 points

Most people would get fired for that.

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7 points

Create the metrics that show RTO reduces productivity. It’s the only thing they even pretend to care about.

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79 points

Never quit in these situations, or they win.

Do the absolute fucking minimum you can, or even less so you piss off management, until they have to fire you, which they can’t outright as after a certain number of years they have to give warnings and trainings first.

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64 points

That’s stupid. Don’t get fired for cause, that only hurts you. Spend your time looking for a new job, then quit and leave ASAP.

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58 points

Split the difference, spend as much of your time on the clock job hunting and doing the bare minimum. Then quit without notice mid shift for the new job.

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I work for a real shitty company with a lot of people who do things just to justify their jobs. This leads to stupid mistakes happening that can cause MASSIVE disruptions for the entire workforce. One such stupid mistake happened this week and caused my team (and several others) a shitload of unnecessary work. Yesterday a guy on my team who works in an already understaffed office had enough and told me that he’s done, and quitting. I can’t blame him, he is in a very shitty situation and I wouldn’t have stayed as long as he has… but if he walked out it would have put that entire location, the rest of our team both locally and extended, in a much worse situation. What it wouldn’t do is hurt the company or the executives.

I’m all for people finding better jobs and leaving toxic environments, but it really does no one any good to pick the absolute worst time to walk out. That’s petty and will burn a lot of bridges, and depending on your situation and industry could come back to haunt you down the road.

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2 points

It’s not stupid as you put it. If you know the laws of where you live, it makes perfect sense.

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11 points

That only works in places with actual worker protection and labor laws, which disqualifies pretty much all of the USA.

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4 points

I work with several European tech teams and when staffing issues happen the other devs absolutely have to carry the slack.

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1 point

Indefinitely? Cause that’s how it usually goes this side of the pond.

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which they can’t outright as after a certain number of years they have to give warnings and trainings first.

I mean, says who? There’s currently only one state in the union that requires cause before you can fire someone. The real issue with firing people is that without a documented cause, that person can collect state unemployment, and the number of people who go on state unemployment from a single company has a financial impact on that company.

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3 points

There are many at-will states that can fire you on demand (if done carefully) and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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3 points

There are two ways to quit: How management wants you to or because you’re forming a union.

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10 points

Go into the office and waste every resource you can.

Plug in a fan + heater + aquarium + massage pad at your desk and leave everything on constantly even when you leave

Print every email and throw it in the trash.

Make coffee 50x a day and pour it down the sink

Flush a whole roll of TP every hour

Leave sinks on in the bathroom

Use entire tubs of soap to wash your hands

Turn on the microwave for hours at a time

Heat/cool office thermometer to force HVAC into overdrive

Open new browser windows until your computer crashes and repeat until the network goes down

Company wide meme emails that everyone participates in (team building) that crash servers and dominate inboxes

Pour sugar/crumbs everywhere so there’s pest problems

Accept every phishing email

Put USB sticks found on the ground into your work computer

Open the door for strangers who want to get in the building without a badge

FORM A UNION

(nuclear option) introduce bedbugs to all your bosses offices

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4 points

Found the guy from the heater + aquarium + massagepad + paper + coffee + toilet paper + soap + HVAC +sugar lobby!

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It’s not much but I charge all my battery electronics at work and fill my water growlers too they have a pretty great filter here. I have a bunch of camping electronics. Couple flashlights/magnet lights, couple battery packs, portable rechargeable air pump. I’m thinking of getting one of those big Boi anker power bricks for when I travel.

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