Amazon.com’s Whole Foods Market doesn’t want to be forced to let workers wear “Black Lives Matter” masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.

National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if it’s forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.

Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high court’s June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case “provides a clear roadmap” to throw out the NLRB’s complaint.

The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job.

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You can get mad at Amazon, but really it’s the Supreme Court you should be mad at. Amazon is going to take advantage of whatever it thinks will make them more money. The government is the thing that is supposed to keep them in check.

Edit: A lot of people seem to be reading something different from what I wrote. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be mad at Amazon, or that Amazon isn’t at fault for their own actions. What I did say is that you should expect this type of behavior from a business and should expect our government to do a better job at keeping this behavior in check.

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I’m mad at both. Amazon is trash. The current court is trash. And all the ghouls that got us this shit ass court are trash, from Mcconnell to Trump to every dummy that votes for Trump to the stupid stupid Democrats who didn’t fight tooth and nail when Obama’s pick didn’t get a hearing and didn’t pack the courts at the 1st opportunity. Oh and fuck RGB who should have fucking retired at the start of Obama’s 1st term. Octogenarians who survived multiple bouts of cancer don’t have the luxury of hanging out so the 1st female president gets to appoint their successor. Democrats are so fucking inept it’s hard to believe that they aren’t sandbagging us on purpose

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it’s hard to believe that they aren’t sandbagging us on purpose

It’s hard to believe that they’re not doing it on purpose exactly because they are doing it on purpose. The system isn’t broken, it’s doing exactly what it is designed to do. You cannot use the system against itself. Voting helps prevent the greater evil but that just gets you the lesser evil. If you want an answer that is not evil at all, we need to create that entirely separately, outside of the established system and politics.

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I don’t disagree with anything you said. You’re right on every account. We’re still seeing it in action as Feinstein refuses to step down and backing up the appointment of judges. RBG and Feinstein both destroyed their legacies by hanging on to power for far too long. It’s insane that Mitt Romney, of all people, is the one I agree with. He’s not going to run and encouraged other old people to stop running and let the next generation have a chance.

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I’ll take both please

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When the corporations can fund the politicians there is no difference between them.

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“Amazon is going to take advantage of whatever it thinks will make them more money.”

Yea I will in fact get mad at that kind of behavior. Lots of businesses doing it (and commenters like you normalizing it) doesn’t make them less responsible for their shitty behavior.

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They specifically said you can be mad. It’s the first sentence in OP’s comment. WTF are you on about?

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Did you miss where where the point of their comment was to deemphasize Whole Foods’ fault and culpability in this? Or are you starting a linguistics discussion?

Edit: in other words, they say “You should expect businesses to act this way” and I say otherwise

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what the fuck is this shit, on my lemmy? fuck them both is the only sane conclusion, not “it’s a business so it’s fine”

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I didn’t say it was fine… I said it’s to be expected and the reason they need guard rails.

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You expect too much from people. The majority of this platform, like most others, is comprised of emotionally immature children. They simply want to screech when they see something they don’t like. Not approach the subject from a dispassionate viewpoint.

We both know what you said. But since you didn’t publicly attack Amazon, they’ll strawman it so it appears you’re defending them.

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I can get mad at Amazon and Supreme Court at the same time, but not for this. Having uniform requirements is reasonable thing to do, especially for customer facing employees.

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why?

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Because business is about making money by providing best services. Having dress code is part of it.

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I fear for the public education system when someone like you has to ask this question.

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Getting mad is not important. Making society better is. And everyone involved is responsible for their own actions.

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These people are morons with 8th grade reading comprehension skills.

Come to think of it, maybe they are in fact 8th graders?

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Fuck Wholefoods

None of my homies shop at Wholefoods

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You don’t shop at Whole Foods because of it’s policies.

I don’t shop at Whole Foods because I don’t believe in paying $4 for a apple.

We are not the same.

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It’s $6, grandpa.

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It’s Amazon/Whole Foods’ policies that lead to charging such ridiculous prices for their items. You are the same, even if you don’t realize it.

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Whole Foods was charging ridiculous prices long before Amazon got involved.

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I absolutely would be willing to pay 4 or more for an apple, if it were local, and profits go to a local farm. I’m aware that means I eat in-season then too

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So just drive to your local farmers market. Get a pound or two for $5 and cut out the middle man. I go occasionally, I get good deals like $1 massive sweet onions, 3 for $1 bell peppers (like softball sized ones), etc. Go early though, they usually sell before official times and are sold out within 3 hours (restaurants hit them hard)

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I live very close to the largest continuous fruit growing area in Europe. In-season 5kg crates go for five Euros, at the end of the season as low as one euro for 5kg on clearance. Don’t expect fancy-pants new strains to go at that price, though, it’s going to be Elstar or Holstein Cox.

And, fun sidenote: Out of season it’s indeed more CO2-advantageous for us to import apples from New Zealand than to store them. Buy apple sauce.

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There isn’t one in my town so boycott goin strong for N years?

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Idk that 5% cash back is hard to beat. I mean sure, fuck amazon for being anti-union, definitely need to trust bust them to but until then I can’t get 5% cash back when buying household goods anywhere else.

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That 5% would be great, if WF wasn’t like 50% more expensive LOL

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whole-foods-vs-trader-joe-180008164.html

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It’s not “Whole Foods” it’s Amazon. Whole Foods died when Amazon bought them.

source: I’m from Austin and know several people that work there from employees to management. They killed everything that was whole foods.

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Pretty sure Whole Foods had shitty conservative executives back then too didn’t they?

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They also fought against tighter regulation and labeling of organic and GMO products.

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And then Amazon bought them and as I’m certain it was fucking awful to work there.

edit: seems familiar… package deliveries, pickers, warehouse workers, pee bottles

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That’s because they largely bought out most of the places that were better to work at.

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Profit sharing ended in 2019. It’s all been big ol Amazon now

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You can’t escape those fucks living in Texas. They’re everywhere.

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in austin; those fucks call themselves liberal.

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It’s been like that about Whole Foods since the 80s. John Mackey is a libertarian fuckhead and it’s been a series of people realizing it ever since.

They hired union busters all the time.

In the 10’s he tried to sell his book “conscious capitalism” on the shelves. Surprise surprise, no one bought it.

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I think I’ve heard about this.

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iiuc, wf is not saying that customers can’t wear BLM masks. They don’t want to show a political stance and, as a result, don’t want BLM masks worn by their employees, because that could be misconstrued as wf or Amazon taking a political stance. I can understand that. However, they, then, must ban ALL shows of politics in their store by them and their employees, and that includes LGBTQIA+ stuff. Otherwise, they’re just banning BLM stuff, which will be misconstrued (notice the crossed out ‘mis’) as them taking a political stance against black folks.

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