137 points

Iran is correct.

Israel is destabilizing the region further with this shit.

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We hear about Israel’s right to protect itself so often we almost forget that everyone has it.

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Everyone, except Palestine and Lebanon

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I mean right doesn’t equate to ability…

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Can we just let the leaders duke it out? 1 on 1 knife fights. Leave the people out of this shit

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If only.

[T]he ministers and generals of the two countries, dressed in bathing-drawers and armed with clubs, can have it out among themselves. Whoever survives, his country wins. That would be much simpler and more just than this arrangement, where the wrong people do the fighting.

  • All Quiet on the Western Front, written by a WW1 veteran
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Do you just have quotes like this in a rolodex?

I loved the book, but cannot pull quotes for the life of me.

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13 points

Eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye…

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Except for the last guy who will still have one eye. How’s the blind guy gonna take the eye of the guy with one eye left? All that guy had to do is run away and hide behind a bush. Gandhi was wrong.

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The great war is coming!

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The war to end all wars!

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7 points

So great that there will not be a need for another. (this time for sure)

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How the hell a war is to end war.

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I don’t think Iran had to attack Israel in first place. Hezbollah sought this when they started attacking Israel after Oct 7th.

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54 points

Ignoring all the assassinations and strikes by Israel, including the unprovoked bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus?

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Iran is supporting it’s allies like the West does

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Are they really allies if they’re just an extension of yourself?

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On the surface - perhaps. But Iran’s regime has to keep its image of power for its domestic peace. Israel’s gov knows this and they do steps they know would elicit response from Iran in the hopes Iran would actually hit hard and the US would be dragged in official capacity. That would be dramatically destabilizing for the region. I reckon the US threatened Israel with real steps in order to get them to not hit targets that would have led to such escalation.

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Since Iran is funding and arming Hezbollah and Hamas, how should Israel handle Iran?

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you straight up have not been paying any attention

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Can’t disagree, every nation has the right to defend itself.

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To repeat immortal words of the sage Pierce Piers Morgan, “what should the Iranian government do?”.

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They could try not constantly funding and training groups commiting terrorist acts.

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Absolutely. And the Israelis should dismantle the apartheid, end the occupation, get the fuck on their side of their 1967 border, and recognize the sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. Plus, they should hand over their war criminals to the ICC and start a Truth and Reconciliation process. Throw in paying reparations, because why the fuck not.

Somehow I don’t think though that Pierce Piers Morgan would accept that as a valid answer when he was asking “what should the Israeli government do”. Do you? Because if you do, I will also accept your answer about the terrorist groups. 100%.

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I’m up voting both of you and I’m sad about it

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I lost my shit when he interviewed Lowkey for the second time, and Lowkey asked him if he condemned Rupert Murdoch because he publicly funds illegal Israeli settlers, providing evidence to support his claim. All the life drained from his face, and he immediately ended the interview.

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Isn’t his name piers? I feel like we should be making fun of him for that alone. Like who tf names their kid piers?

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It’s unlikely they’ll attack before the election, if they do. They know every escalation is another vote for Trump, and even Iran doesnt want Trump in power. My guess is they’re going to see who wins and what comes out of it before making any decisions.

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This analysis ignores the internal motivations for foreign policy.

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How so?

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Iran has it’s own internal politics and factions it needs to appease.

This is true of most countries too.

The US invasion of Iraq had far more to do with internal politics than it did with any actions of Saddam.

The current elected leader of Iran was actually the concillatory to the west candidate, elected when tensions were not quite as high.

Now that tensions are high, he has to prove he’s not too weak to his own constituency, as the Persian people come together under what they consider to be an unjust attack.

Again, this is true in general for most countries. Foreign policy is driven far more by domestic politics then most people consider.

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Iran doesn’t want Trump in power

Why not, would you say?

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Trump is an even bigger Zionist supporter than Biden, which is pretty impressive considering how much support Biden gives them.

On top of that, he also did a lot of bad things towards Iran when he was president like sabotaging a deal Obama setup meant to ensure Iran has no nukes in favor of less sanctions and better relations. He also assassinated their top general Soleimani.

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Iran is an Ally to Russia. Who fills Trump’s pockets easier, Israel or Russia.

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No lies detected.

Godspeed.

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